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NEWS: Netflix Announces CG Knights of the Zodiac: Saint Seiya Remake Anime


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meiam



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:40 am Reply with quote
Did they not watch the latest Berserk show?
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Nodz



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:00 pm Reply with quote
So a CG Saint Seiya adapting 3 arcs (Galaxian Wars, Black Saints, Silver Saints) in 12 episodes? It's have to adapt like 28 chapters to cover what they want, that seems fine to me. (it corresponds to the first 6 volumes of the last manga edition).

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:05 pm Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
Did they not watch the latest Berserk show?


No, but Toei did have Kado The Right Answer air last season and that show, despite also being CG, looked better than both seasons of Berserk.

With that said, this will be interesting because they already produced Saint Seiya in CG previously with the Legend of Sanctuary film and this will obviously be different from that one. I also wonder which voice cast this will have since on the Japanese side, they still use the Hades OVA cast for the video games but went with an all new cast for the movie for whatever reason.


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zrnzle500



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:07 pm Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
Did they not watch the latest Berserk show?


I'm sure they watched Knights of Sidonia, Ajin, Blame, and Gantz:O

Never really got into Saint Seiya but I might check this out.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:07 pm Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
Did they not watch the latest Berserk show?

But this show is being done by Toei Animation, and they've shown that they can do CG really well with their work on last Spring's Kado: The Right Answer.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:15 pm Reply with quote
"Knights of the Zodiac"

They're still running with that name huh?
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chronos02



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:34 pm Reply with quote
As much as companies want to make it mean the same, CG does not equal anime in MY dictionary.

Can CGi be made to look like digitally drawn anime? yes, but will the companies spend enough money to make it look so good? Obviously not.

Just look at Knights of Sidonia, Ajin, and similar series, let's not even talk about Berserk... they look from "meh" to "MY EYES!!! BURN MY EYESSSS!!!". On the other hand, just take a look at some of the games that have been produced in the past 10 years using cellshading and similar techniques, such as Valkyria Chronicles, Project Diva, Idom@ster, and the recent Breath of the Wild. I know first hand that producing an anime from that is perfectly possible, for it'd be the same as producing cutscenes, with the enormous advantage of the simulation being in real time (no rendering time required), and the infinite possibilities real time recording provides, such as modifying things on the fly, adding elements at any moment, etc. The only issue I see here is that they companies would need to get more people with knowledge on modern CG, such as Z, MB, Substance, etc.

In other words, they'd need to change so many things from how the anime industry works that it'd stop being the anime industry as we know it. It would require far less people to produce high quality anime, at a fraction of the cost, and the employees would have much higher salaries. But it would be much harder to enter the industry, as the inbetweener would most likely disappear, and that's the most common entry point as far as I know.

Being a 3D artist myself (at least I like to think I am, despite having no professional experience yet...), it saddens me that so many companies do such a poor job at demonstrating the possibilities of CGi, and how the viewers see CGi as the "cheap and bad" of the industry.
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FackuIkari



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:34 pm Reply with quote
Somer-_- wrote:
"Knights of the Zodiac"

They're still running with that name huh?


Caballeros de Zodiaco is a cool name man
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64BitRatchet



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:37 pm Reply with quote
When I first saw this I thought it was Knights of Sidonia, because of CG, Netflix, and season 3 was confirmed in June.
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Codeanime93



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All the voice cast will be replacements (Dragon Shiryu would be anyway) and even Toru Furuya will not be in it. Just going to get ready for that possibility. And we are going with that cringe dub name? And can this please mean someone gets to releasing the other two arcs of the series on DVD and re-releases the Sanctuary one with better subtitles.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:27 pm Reply with quote
Why? Toei probably knows Saint Seiya doesn't sell well here. Over the past couple of years, we had the movies, first "season" of the anime(73 episodes) and a spinoff released to DVD. They all sold so horribly that all three companies swore they would never do another SS release. I don't think Viz's digital manga release sold all that well, either.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:28 pm Reply with quote
NJ_ wrote:
meiam wrote:
Did they not watch the latest Berserk show?


No, but Toei did have Kado The Right Answer air last season and that show, despite also being CG, looked better than both seasons of Berserk.


Yeah, that was what I wanted to point out: It seems Toei Animation is doing this one, and from what I saw with Kado: The Right Answer, they're improving dramatically with their 3-D CGI shows.

Somer-_- wrote:
"Knights of the Zodiac"

They're still running with that name huh?


Since this is the English language release, I can see why they'd go with that name, as that's the name that'd be most familiar to English speakers, kind of like how the recent Parasyte anime is called as such. I'm actually pleasantly surprised they stuck "Saint Seiya" in there at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:32 pm Reply with quote
NateSelwyn25 wrote:
Why? Toei probably knows Saint Seiya doesn't sell well here. Over the past couple of years, we had the movies, first "season" of the anime(73 episodes) and a spinoff released to DVD. They all sold so horribly that all three companies swore they would never do another SS release. I don't think Viz's digital manga release sold all that well, either.


Because the world is not just the United States and Saint Seiya is explosively popular in Latin America (and parts of Europe afaik). It's only second to Dragon Ball in popularity here. I think a Chilean guy has the Guiness record of the biggest Saint Seiya collection actually.
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TemplateR



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:40 pm Reply with quote
3-4 Arcs into 12 episodes? So that means, they won´t adapt the manga-story very faithful or?
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ZetaZaku



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:55 pm Reply with quote
TemplateR wrote:
3-4 Arcs into 12 episodes? So that means, they won´t adapt the manga-story very faithful or?

Where did you get that from?
That's 35 episodes of the original show. That's around 6 vols of the manga. If they trim some fat, it can fit well in the 12 episodes.
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