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1dbad
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It's too bad we have to wait for a probable home video release of a subtitled version, because I would love to see a review that properly compares both versions. I've heard the Japanese version is quite the emotional experience. But at least it sounds like a nice nostalgic watch, even if the dub is up to its usual shenanigans.
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TokyoSplash
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Had the honor of watching this on Tuesday before the public at the U.S. dub premiere in New York. The movie was fantastic. I agree wholeheartedly with this article. The English dub voices are just implanted in my brain. It was great hearing them again after some time. I loved the film more than I can put into words. It'll make any Yugioh fan go home and just binge the og series for all it's worth.
I know I speak for a lot people when I say, in one way or another, I hope to see the films continue. Regardless if we get them or not, this was a was very satisfying ending to one of my favorite series of all time. I recommend the movie to long time Yugioh fans and newcomers alike. |
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ryoukosan245
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I'll wait until the Japanese version is available to watch it ,but I'm looking forward to it nonetheless.
I am curious how they were able to get Dan Green and Eric Stuart back though, didn't they both retire from voice acting? Last edited by ryoukosan245 on Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Calculus20
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Well this is the dub so I'm surprised the script got such a high score when the japanese version is much more mature and has a deeper story. Really this movie is in everyway a sequel to the original manga so all the stuff the reviewer was confused about with ghosts and dimensions make sense if you have read the manga. Read the manga if you have the chance, the anime really didn't do it justice neither dub or sub.
I'm just surprised that the reviewer gave the Animation a B- and the art a B? Like really? This movie looks incredibly good, moreso than any YGO anime ever made. Yeah there are some far shots that look kind of bad and the animation can be clunky but it's definitely not "almost average" tier animation. Definitely disagree on that aspect. But yeah as far as the dub goes it surpassed my expectations, mainly because I had none in the first place, but it made me even more eager to see the japanese version later on. |
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ryoukosan245
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Well it doesn't help that 4K media marketed the film as a sequel to the anime instead of the manga to the point where they decided to use the character's dub names even though the english translation of the manga used the Japanese names. |
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AnimeLordLuis
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I'll definitely be taking a trip to the nearest theater that is playing Yu-Gi-Oh! The Darksides of Dimensions and thankfully one is really close to me.
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Stuart Smith
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Movie are aways the one weakness of fansubs. Having to wait for Japanese home release can be excruciating long.
Really? People generally consider the anime superior adaption to the manga. The manga ran into a lot of issues with Takahashi being hospitalized and also editorial meddling that the anime fixed, especially in the final memory world arc. The anime is even the basis for the sequel series as opposed to the manga. But anyway, unless I'm forgetting something I don't see how this movie doesn't fit into the animeverse as well, they are more or less the same story regardless. The Japanese version also uses the anime voice cast so that's not all on 4Kids. -Stuart Smith |
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bleachj0j
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Do they really? I think the manga is better more often than not. Especially the early stuff. This movie is a sequel to the manga mainly because there are quite some differences between them. Namely, in the last arc Kaiba not being present for the Yugi vs Atem duel, battle city is the last time Kaiba is seen pretty much. Which is the basis for his motivation in this movie and why his attitude towards Yugi is a certain way. The Japanese promotion very clearly stated its a continuation of the manga when announced Takahashi was writing. Other differences from the manga include things like Pegasus being dead, rules of Duel Monsters, Yugi's end goal etc. |
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ryoukosan245
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As a person who's read the manga and watch the anime I can tell you that there are a few differences between the 2 versions, for instance that manga is a lot darker than the anime is and this isn't even taking the 4Kids dub into account. Also the anime was played up as an advertisement for the trading card game so even parts of the manga that originally had nothing to do with duel monsters like the DDM arc had duel monsters elements added to them. The anime also didn't adapt the first 7 volumes of the manga so the more important event's from the manga like Yugi's first meetings with Bakura & Shadi and the 1st and 2nd duel with Kaiba were inserted in various places of season 1 in abridged format. Also Kaiba was written out of the story after battle city in the manga which is why it makes a lot more since for the movie to be a sequel to the manga and not the anime, since he wan't present during Yugi & Atem's duel. |
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Calculus20
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Well that is news to me. I have never met anyone who has read the manga who said the anime was better. While you are right that Takahashi was hospitalized and the final arc was rushed, the anime sure as hell didn't fix anything. At most it just added a couple of backstories of some of the important priests and Kisara but it also added too much anime original content that made that arc less faithful to the manga than an improvement. Not to mention the animation/art was absolutely horrendous. It was just an all around mess while at least the manga version managed to keep some semblance of a story despite not having certain things fleshed out and whatnot. The dub movie simply doesn't fit into the animeverse because in the anime Kaiba was present at the Ceremonial Duel. He saw Atem lose to Yugi thereby acknowledging Yugi as more than Atem's vessel and he also laid his rivalry with Atem to rest. He basically got over everything and moved on. This movie in the dub follows the anime which then makes no sense because Kaiba already got over Atem's passing in the anime, so why the hell is he still obsessed with him? It's just a character regression for no good reason. In the manga, Kaiba was completely absent from the final arc including the Ceremonial Duel. While Yugi and his friends all got their closure with Atem, Kaiba did not. The dub version tries to spin the whole generic "Kaiba wants to be the best and finally beat Atem" for the umpteenth time. But it's not really like that at all in the japanese version. Kaiba considers Atem a friend, even if it's in his own twisted definition of friendship, but this was shown near the end of the Battle City arc in the manga. It's part of why he helped Atem against Marik. Atem has been shown to be the only one who truly understands Kaiba too. So you can say that Atem is a very important person to Kaiba. So seeing Atem gone has deeply affected Kaiba's psyche and the movie is his way of "grieving." He digs up the puzzle because he refuses to believe Atem is gone, he is in the denial stage of grief you could say. He wants to "duel" Atem not to prove he is the best but as a way of "conversing" with him, since all their ideological clashes have revolved around duels. There's a lot more to this but I've already typed enough. Hopefully you can see the gist of what I'm trying to say. The dub will be the dub, it doesn't really seem that it has changed much from the days of the original series, and I don't care that much for it but it sure as hell is not the definitive version of this movie. |
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Xeogran
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Nonono no. This just isn't true when it comes to Yu-Gi-Oh. First of all the whole "Season 0" lore is cut from the Duel Monsters anime because of a studio change. That's removal of 7 volumes worth of ccharacter development. The First arc, Duelist Kingdom, is a mess which tries to follow the manga but gets lost in it's own maze. For example, in the anime Kaiba was never put into a coma by Yugi, but the story still tries to act like he was, with Pegasus taking over his corporation and kidnapping Mokuba. Anime Memory World arc was a total mess as well. They added some fiiller zombies to Bakura's army for no reason at all and many things were not adapted at all or lightened up. DM anime is certainly fun, but Kazuki's manga is leagues ahead. I think that Battle City was the best adopted arc. |
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Stuart Smith
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Those differences were actually what I was talking about. The card game was what fans loved in Japan. Every attempt Takahashi made to try to move away from it was met with criticism from the fans. After Duelist Kingdom, he tried to focus on DDM but fans complained, so editors complained, and thus Otogi and his game were shelved to the background. The anime "fixed" this by adding in Duel Monsters to the arc since that's what fans complained about in the manga version. Cut forward to the Memory World where the manga lacked the whole duel monster aspect, and interest in Japan plummeted, forcing Takahashi to wrap it up sooner than expected in the threat of cancellation. The anime again "fixed" this by adding in more Duel Monsters elements to it, like the characters summoning monsters to help out. I say "fixed" in quotes because it's up to you if you accept them as improvements or not. But as far as Japanese fans were concerned, Yu-Gi-Oh! is about card games. The early portion of the manga wasn't really popular either, and it wasn't until Kaiba and Duel Monsters popped up did it take off, and fan demand brought Kaiba back. The anime more or less took this cue to skip the early manga stuff, similar to Yu Yu Hakuho, and jump straight to Duelist Kingdom, offering in some admittedly rushed introduction for Kaiba and Bakura, as those were the only 2 important aspects of the early manga's game-of-the-week stories.
I can see that, but I'd still argue even being present in the final arc can still have Kaiba feeling a lack of closure since he never beat Atem in a duel that didn't involve him threatening suicide.
I believe the explanation for that in the anime was stockholders losing faith in Kaiba after his lose to Yugi, which introduced the Big Five and their deal with Pegasus and kidnapping Mokuba for his key to KaibaCorp. The Big Five were just shadowed figures in the manga, but made more prominent characters in the anime where after Duelist Kingdom Kaiba actually tries to fire them, leading to the virtual world filler where they 'die', and then later Noa where they try to take over everyone's bodies to escape the virtual world. -Stuart Smith |
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ryoukosan245
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Really ,because from what I heard the popularity in the Yu-Gi-Oh! manga plummeted because the Battle City arc was taking so long to finish. Season ''0'' definitely wasn't popular because it wasn't a very good adaptation ,but the early portions of the manga were. |
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1dbad
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I have to agree that the manga is light years ahead of even the Japanese version of the anime. That goes for the season 0 as well! I know it's adored for covering the non-card game parts of the manga, but it did an even worse job adapting the manga than DM (the anime that covers the card game parts) was.
What makes this movie so exciting is the fact that it's our first animated feature that actually takes place in manga canon instead of anime canon. The dub changing it into anime dub canon isn't surprising, but it's a shame they couldn't retain that special quality.
Disappointing, but not surprising. Kaiba's character arc had the worst changes in the original Yugioh dub, so I figured we were in for more of the same as soon as I heard the movie was Kaiba-centric. |
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SnowWarren
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Saw the movie. The audience and I were giggling our way through most of the jokes as many of them were self referencial didn't seem to be trying as hard to lighten up a scene like they did in the old dub. Most of the funny lines came from Kaiba saying them straight.
Doesn't surprise me as the rules felt a lot more all over the place. Even more then the series. I spent a lot of time thinking "Hey, he shouldn't be able to do that now!", and wondered if the dub had left some explanation out. Sadly there's also a lot of spoiler[winning via Deus Ex Machina aka cheating in the movie rather then the characters using sound strategies. ]
I see what you mean. Kaiba does say to Yugi spoiler["You have your bond with him and I have mine".] I know that doesn't make up for what we might have lost with the dub. |
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