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Zac
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:32 pm Reply with quote
Okay, folks, this is getting REALLY STUPID.

There are multiple threads now comparing the anime Hellsing to the upcoming Hugh Jackman film, Van Helsing. There is absolutely nothing to compare between these two.

Hellsing is a story about the descendents of Richter Van Helsing, the legendary vampire hunter who fought Dracula in Bram Stoker's book. The anime focuses on his ancestors, who have enslaved the reincarnation of Vlad Tepes, otherwise known as Dracula. The show deals not at all with the original Richter Van Helsing, other than mentioning him as the father of the family line. He has nothing whatsoever to do with the series otherwise. In fact, the show focuses entirely on Alucard, otherwise known as Dracula, otherwise known as Vlad Tepes, otherwise known as Vlad the Impaler.

Van Helsing is a silly summer action film directed by Stephen Sommers (of "The Mummy" fame) with Hugh Jackman playing the role of Richter Van Helsing who fights Dracula, The Wolfman, and Frankenstein's Monster. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the "Hellsing" anime series. The two are not similar in style, story, character or execution. One did not influence the other. They are both reimaginings of Bram Stoker's original Dracula novels and the old vampire legends from Romania.

There is NO SENSE in comparing the two, calling one a rip-off of the other. A simple cursory examination of these two titles will show that what they do have in common is simply a single word (which isn't even spelled the same way across both stories) and little else. Please, for the love of all that's holy, stop comparing these two titles. Yes, there is a Van Helsing animated film. It is not anime. It was not produced by the Japanese. It wasn't worked on by any significant Japanese staff. It doesn't really even LOOK like anime. It has nothing at all to do with "Hellsing" whatsoever. I'm not "defending" either story, I'm just sick of the rampant stupidity that seems to have glazed over a few of these boards in regards to this issue.

ENOUGH. Can we please be smart about this now? Please?
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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:30 pm Reply with quote
Well stated Zac. I've been dying to say something about the fact that the Van Helsing movie has nothing to do with anime in any way, and there was nothing to really make comparisons either. However, since I'm not a mod of any sort, I bit my tongue. Your post regarding this is so succinctly done however, that I really have very little to add. I'm tired of it showing up in both the news and anime sections, and if it were left to me, I'd lock and/or delete the threads or posts that are offending and not necessary to what this forum is for.
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The Ramblin' Wreck



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:39 pm Reply with quote
I always thought it was Abraham Van Helsing in Dracula.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:27 am Reply with quote
Zac wrote:

There is absolutely nothing to compare between these two.



i agree, well spoken.


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the_soultaker



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:30 am Reply with quote
Zac wrote:


Hellsing is a story about the descendents of Richter Van Helsing, the legendary vampire hunter who fought Dracula in Bram Stoker's book. The anime focuses on his ancestors, who have enslaved the reincarnation of Vlad Tepes, otherwise known as Dracula. The show deals not at all with the original Richter Van Helsing, other than mentioning him as the father of the family line. He has nothing whatsoever to do with the series otherwise.


No S**t. Razz

Anyone who has knowledge of horror literiture to some degree know that Van Hellsing orignated from the Bram Stoker fiction- works and that said character has been portayed from previous Dracula movie adaptations including the lackluster one starring anthony hopkins as well as an mordern version in Marvel comics' tomb of dracula which was produced as an anime in the mid 80's by tatsunoko productions.

However i do agree that the Van Hellsing topics have been redundant, but it's amusing ina a funny sorta way when it's being compared to the anime series that is Hellsing. and what's even more puzzling is that there actually is an animated series based on the upcoming movie Van hellsing...this is a shameless marketing ploy at it's worst, same goes for The Chronicles of Riddick. (both by universal studios which neither movie am i looking forward to seeing. The Dawn of the Dead was their only recent sucess.)
And if it anit Anime, it's an instant pass. Evil or Very Mad

What's next, a Vanhellsing Happy meal at your participating Wac donalds?


Ladies and gentlemen the "dead horse" has been beaten enough. end of discussion, end of thread. Wink
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ZahmiraV



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:05 am Reply with quote
The Ramblin' Wreck wrote:
I always thought it was Abraham Van Helsing in Dracula.


ya, it was. And I think that the Van Helsing in the movie is Gabriel. But I could be mistaken.

Anyway, thank you Zac! This was starting to tick me off....
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Steventheeunuch





PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:18 am Reply with quote
VAN HELSING = VANDREAD = GONZO = HELLSING = BLUE SUBMARINE = BANDAI = WOLFS RAIN!!!!!



IT ALL MAKES SENSE AND YOU ARE WRONG IF MY NAME ISNT GEN FUKUNAGA!AA!
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dansil3nthill



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:55 pm Reply with quote
well, to say they have nothing in common is'nt fair, cause they are both based in the dracula world, but certainly there stories don't relate.


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GATSU



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:27 pm Reply with quote
As long as we still agree that Atlantis is a rip-off of Nadia.
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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:14 pm Reply with quote
Which is a rip off of 20,000 leagues under the sea. Wow, I guess the Japanese owe us more than we thought. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:39 pm Reply with quote
Godaistudios wrote:
Which is a rip off of 20,000 leagues under the sea. Wow, I guess the Japanese owe us more than we thought. Wink


Especially since the book was written by a French guy and not an American Wink
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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:42 pm Reply with quote
Well, it's my understanding that we were the ones who made it popular... even more so, that it's western culture that Japan had drawn off of, but if you'd prefer:


We are the world, we are the children.
We are the ones who make a brigher day so let's start givin'.
There's a choice were making...

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JETBLACK87



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:55 pm Reply with quote
Cassandra wrote:
Godaistudios wrote:
Which is a rip off of 20,000 leagues under the sea. Wow, I guess the Japanese owe us more than we thought. Wink


Especially since the book was written by a French guy and not an American Wink


Which was really boring. I'm clad Disney has given me a way to enjoy that story. And there is song and dance to keep my attention.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:29 pm Reply with quote
Godaistudios wrote:
We are the world, we are the children.
We are the ones who make a brigher day so let's start givin'.
There's a choice were making...


Farm Aid or whatever, from the 80s..

For a while I was thinking it was part of the lyrics from Ryoko Moriyama's performance at the Nagano Olympics in 1998... :p
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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 4:15 am Reply with quote
Yeah, USA for Africa actually...

sigh, I feel too old sometimes.
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