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LordByronius
ANN Columnist
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Okay, I'm curious.
O forum denizens of ANN, I ask ye: In your eyes, what're the prime examples of anime that exist out there? No, I'm not asking for a Top 10 Faves list or any other BS. Which anime series/movie could you pluck from the mindless others and have stand toe-to-toe with any of the non-anime greats out there? Which ones would you not feel embarrassed presenting to a judging panel at, say, Cannes? PS: If anyone says Love Hina, I'll cry. |
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HothJedi
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I'd say Rurouni Kenshin season 2, or Cowboy Bebop, or Evangelion.
Okay, I guess that was more than one..but I think they would all stand toe-to-toe against other great series. |
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Cassandra
 Posts: 1356 Location: Birdsboro, PA |
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My Neighbor Totoro
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Emerje
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This should be easy:
Otaku no Video -- The name says it all, it's the fan's video Evangelion -- Just prove that there are no bounderies, nothing sacred. Nadesico -- Goes to show that anything is possible in an anime story line. Ranma 1/2 (forst couple seasons anyway) -- Gender knows no bounds. Gundam -- The bad guys aren't always bad and the good guys aren't always good. Plus, it's got giant robots, can't go wrong there. Di Gi Charat -- Check your brain at the door, you won't need it. Astroboy -- Roots Sailor Moon -- Yeah, I know, but it's the most popular example of a magical girl series. Sure, I probably wouldn't submit most of those to a film festival, but in my mind they're prime examples of what makes anime what it is. Yeah, that's enough. Now, what I wouldn't show is stuff like Heroic Legend of Arislan (How do you save you'r kingdom? Set it on fire and watch the villan run!), Garzy's Wing (Want to beat your enemy? Just drop something heavy on them!) and Yugioh (Always, ALWAYS risk your life for a deck of trading cards, they're worth that much more than living!). Emerje |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Jin-Roh, Spirited Away, maybe Grave of the Fireflies.
Stuff like Evangelion and Nadesico are quality examples of anime but couldn't hold up to a judging panel at Cannes, which is what Byronius was asking for. -Zac |
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Emerje
Posts: 7424 Location: Maine |
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Uh, no it's not. In his own words he's looking for "prime examples of anime" and anime that can "stand toe-to-toe with any of the non-anime greats out there". He only mentioned film festivals as if we would be embarased to present them to a judging pannel. Well, I wouldn't be, not End of Eva or Prince of Darkness. It would be unrealistic anyway, you won't see a series at a film festival, just single movies, that's why I said "Sure, I probably wouldn't submit most of those to a film festival, but in my mind they're prime examples of what makes anime what it is." Sorry, I wasn't thinking of just movies, I was thinking bigger. Emerje |
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nagash
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Wings of Honneamise, A Chinese Ghost Story, Irresponsible Captain Tylor, and maybe even Apocalypse of Devilman.
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ghoti
Posts: 101 Location: Poland |
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As for me the judging trends at major film festivals are shifting towards philosophocal films and films with 'a message' so I think I would go for:
Ghost in the Shell (but I am waiting for the series thoug...the film...there is something missing, I would say) Akira (classic, top animation and creation good design of characters, but still a bit iffy) Monoke-hime Nausicaa of the valley of the wind (these last to... maybe of some environmental messages, and brcasuse od the style) Serial Experiments Lain (erratic, mystic, nicely drawn, some people dislike it, but still if it goes for a major festival I would send it,such production, at least in Europ, get through better then action packed movies) Should be just one poick, but few are better... :) |
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Hagakure
Posts: 111 Location: Connecticut |
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I'm not sure anime will ever be at such a judging, nor am I sure it should be. But as examples of anime with great storylines, animation or anything else such a board would look for:
Jin-Roh- It has a very sad story, but it is fluent and well animated. The Second Season of Kenshin- I love all of Kenshin, but I doubt a judging board would like it. I don't think such boards would appreciate most anime, even though I prefer it to just about everything a judging board likes (different rant.) But the second season has a lot of great storyline, is less episodic than the others, and it has good drama with some usual Kenshin comedy. Macross Plus- Macross Plus has just about everything I like, again, not withstanding what a film board would appreciate. I would suggest it beacuse of its deep human story, and awesome animation. |
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Emerje
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Actually, Spirited Away has been doing pretty good at a couple differen't film festivals. And VHD: Blood Lust almost got into the, uh, Emmy's, Oscars, or something, I don't keep track of those award shows much. Emerje |
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adsfan00
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The definitive answer to that is Grave of the Fireflies. The way it shows the sad consequences of war is amazing. It's not a film I can watch very often (Once every couple of years or so is all I can stomach), but it is powerful stuff. On a MUCH lighter note I wouldn't feel bad presenting the original Macross TV series/Do You Remember Love up against some of the conventional space opera movies. |
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LordByronius
ANN Columnist
Posts: 861 Location: Philippe for America! He is five. |
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Not all film festivals are geared towards one particular film style; they vary depending on the location. You'll find artier stuff at Cannes, edgier stuff at Sundance, and, well, a little of both at something like Telluride, I think.
On a side note, I actually had the chance to go to the Telluride festival this year and I missed it. Somebody shoot me. |
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cookie
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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For a serious, traditional filmfest, I'd say along the lines of... Miyazaki's works, of course, as well as Ooshii, Takahata and such. I'd almost say "Ah! My Goddess the Movie", but it really doesn't have that particular "epic"-level feel to it that I so often associate with film festival films... I'd also almost say "A Wind Named Amnesia", too, except that the sex scene right at the very end really has little reason to be there, and it destroys a lot of the feelings I had for the film. I suppose the Cannes people would see something deeper in the whole scene, tho. :) |
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Slim Shinji
Past ANN Contributor
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Perfect Blue. If I was gonna take an anime film to Cannes I think that would be my first choice outside of a Ghibli film (all of which would of course be worthy competitors at any film fest). And even though it's spun-off of a tv series I think the Cowboy Bebop movie would hold up nicely. And given recent world events, Patlabor 2 would no doubt strike a chord with a lot of people.
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Tempest
 I Run this place.ANN Publisher  Posts: 10468 Location: Do not message me for support. |
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Movies (in no particular order)
Jin-Roh Wings of Honeamise Perfect Blue Millenium Actress Princess Mononoke TV Series Only one: Cowboy Bebop. Lain and Boogipop would be close... A number of my favorites aren't in this list, and Princess Mononoke, Millenium Actress and Lain aren't particular favorites of mine. However, in a literary sense, those are amongst the best that Anime has to offer. I know a lot of people really like Evangelion, but lets be realistic here; while some of the episodes are great, and as a series many people have found it to be really profound and phillosophical. But at the same time, Eva is a roler-coster of quality. Some of the episodes are more like pure after school cartoons, while others are what you would expect at an artsy film festival. Same goes for Kenshin, which happens to be a personal favorite. Eva and Kenshin really aren't what I would show a cultured, litterary inclined individual if I wanted to convince them that Anime is more than commercial children's cartoons. Bebop is a special exception. It isn't litterary at all. What it is is lighthearted, quality adult entertainment. Akin to (but better than most) adult TV programming like ER. |
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