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Roger Ebert's review of "Tokyo Godfathers".


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Proman



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:50 pm Reply with quote
I don't like Ebert very much but I thought some of you might be interested in reading it. The review is mostly positive (3 stars) and references other anime movies. You can read it here: http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-tokyo30f.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:19 pm Reply with quote
He acutally put "My Neighbour Totoro" and "Grave of the Fireflies" in his "Great Movies" section. He also gave 4 stars to both "Princess Mononke" and "Spirited Away" (as well as included them into his top 10 lists). His other anime reviews include "Ghost in the Shell" (3 stars), and "Wings of Honneamise" (3 stars). You can read all of those revies online.

P.S. That's not too say that Ebert is always right. He didn't like some of my favorite movies.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:23 pm Reply with quote
Hmm... if only he had been able to review it a couple of weeks earlier, like, you know, when Academy members were filling out their ballot for the first round.

EDIT: By the way, if anyone thinks I'm blaming Ebert for the lack of nominations for the Kon films, I'm not... the key words there are "had been able".


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:26 pm Reply with quote
I don't think that him reviewing this movie would've made much difference. However, I've seen "Millenium Actress" and I loved it. I think it deserved to be nominated.
P.S. Speaking of Oscars, I hope "Lost In Translation" wins big this year Wink.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:35 pm Reply with quote
I think for a film with near zero publicity aside from one nice FYC ad, a positive review by Ebert a month ago would have made a world of difference to any Academy voter outside of Los Angeles or the handful of other cities that are showing the film whom might be wondering if any of the titles on the short list for Best Animated Feature which they hadn't heard of are any good, and I doubt even many Academy members within the cities which have it playing on one obscure arthouse screen bothered seeing every animated film before filling out their first round ballots.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:45 pm Reply with quote
I always liked Ebert since he I watched him argue with the other guy about what makes anime's animation style wonderful over the Metroplois review. He had a good defense.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:39 pm Reply with quote
He reviewed Metropolis? I'm guessing he never posted an actual review for the Chicago Sun Times?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:40 pm Reply with quote
Bell wrote:
He reviewed Metropolis? I'm guessing he never posted an actual review for the Chicago Sun Times?

Yeah he reviewed Metropolis (he gave it 4 stars by the way!). All of his reviews appear in the Chicago Sun Times. Why wouldn't he post them?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:50 pm Reply with quote
Oh. ^^;; I remember doing a search for Metropolis and no results showed up... Maybe I confused it with something else.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:14 pm Reply with quote
By the way, if you're looking for an archived Ebert review (or checking to see whether or not he reviewed a film at all), the best way to find them is to go through the "back door" by searching for reviews at Rotten Tomatoes. He's often the "Hot Pick" review or one of the "Cream of the Crop", but, if not, "Sort by: Author" (check the dark green bar between the Tomatometer and the reviews for that option).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:47 pm Reply with quote
Tenchi: [url]Hmm... if only he had been able to review it a couple of weeks earlier, like, you know, when Academy members were filling out their ballot for the first round. [/url]

Agreed. Disney probably didn't want him to promote anything but Nemo.

Anyway, I don't understand what he's talking about. Miyazaki's animation style is as unrealistic as they get! Kon's animation style is a very authentic rendering of Tokyo. I mean yeah, Miyazaki's great at backgrounds, but his characters are still as cartoonish as those in most anime. Kon's characters look like people you'd meet anywhere. Plus Ebert pissed me off by inserting spoilers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:14 am Reply with quote
Well, all I was hinting at was that it didn't open in Chicago until January 23rd, so, even if Ebert had attended a press screening a day or two before and this review had appeared in the January 23rd edition of the Sun-Times, it would still be far too late to have any influence on the AMPAS first round ballots, which were due at 5 p.m. on January 17th.

I think the blame goes solely to Samuel Goldwyn Films and Sony/Destination Films for not opening it in Chicago early enough to get a good review from the most important (at least from a mass-appeal perspective) critic of all.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:20 am Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:

Anyway, I don't understand what he's talking about. Miyazaki's animation style is as unrealistic as they get! Kon's animation style is a very authentic rendering of Tokyo. I mean yeah, Miyazaki's great at backgrounds, but his characters are still as cartoonish as those in most anime. Kon's characters look like people you'd meet anywhere. Plus Ebert pissed me off by inserting spoilers.

Ebert wasn't talking about how realistic Miyazaki's was. He was referring to the so-called "limited animation" that Kon was using, meaning his animation wasn't as fluid as Miyazaki's.
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I'm glad Kon's being discovered by Hollywood, but he still deserves an Oscar. I hope his transition to television doesn't mean he's given up on film.
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