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SkullKnight



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:34 pm Reply with quote
don't forget the transitions between different cultures. What they can do in anime from a japanese standpoint as apposed to american animation. The culture shock, etc.
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Legato 2057



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:39 pm Reply with quote
3 topics:

1: The techincal spects of making an animated film.

How the creation proces works comared to a live action film.

2: Anime compared to american animation

What is it about anime that makes it so different form American animation? Is it simply that it is from Japan or is it deeper

3: Anime compared to Live action (any country)

What can an animated film/tv series do that a live action version can not do.
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Proman



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:41 pm Reply with quote
I recommend you check out a book called "Anime Explosion! The What? Why? and Wow! of Japanese Animation" by Patrick Drazen. You might find it helpful.
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Legato 2057



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:43 pm Reply with quote
Oh yeah, don't forget to post the paper here when you are done. Maybe you could submit it to ANN as a special column.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:03 pm Reply with quote
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Empyrical



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:14 pm Reply with quote
I'm currently doing a large paper, such as the one you described, discussing ancient and modern mythology and how it ties in with certain animes. This is a good topic to do it on, assuming you know about such things; there is so much anime and so many urban legends/chinese/japanese legends to talk about, you could easily fill up 12-13 pages.
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:16 pm Reply with quote
*stares at her English paper of the History of Animation and remembers it's due soon, and she hasn't fixed up the sources* >.>;

Legato listed good stuff to go by.
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Steve Berry



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:23 pm Reply with quote
Here is another thread that I thought was very intersting--

animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2642&highlight=

If the link doesn't work, the title of the thread was "Philosophical speculation-- what makes anime different ...??" and I was the author (another way to find the thread).

This was very very interesting to me. There was lots of discussion about how anime is different from other forms, and what it can do that other can't. Also, the article at anipike on "Focus" is great-- made me rethink the way I viewed anime. I found it through yahooing it, when the link didn't work. It is absolutely worth reading.

Good luck. And post back with any discoveries you make.
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Immorrel



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:18 pm Reply with quote
I sit here and read how everybody is referencing other places but I think that Ill just talk about why anime has a special place in my heart.

I grew up in a family of reader and music listeners, so I grew up with a lot of sources of influences on my likes and dislikes. I would happily sit and read and book and listen to music and never even look at a TV and life would be happy for me.

Then I made the mistake of picking up a video game and discovered RPG's. Now I have a game that is a story with action that I can see. And sometimes even a decent soundtrack to go along with it. So I joined that little cultural niche that enjoyed video games. And in this niche was another little subculture that enjoyed this thing called anime.

Now I had no clue what this was all about and never really gave it any thought until I got a little older and started actually noticing that a lot of the stuff that I enjoyed as a kid took its roots way back in anime. I started to find out that stuff like Teknoman was actually Tekkaman Blade and that it originally came from japan and this anime thing that I keep hearing about.

So next logical step is to start shopping around and looking into anime. So now I come full circle and discover the same thing I found in RPG's a great story, action that is fun to watch, and music that you couldnt help but love. So in the end it all came down to the fact that thanks to all that stuff I used to do as a kid, gave me a great foundation to enjoy anime.

Now to talk about the differences in the medium you wish me to talk about. Live action movies and US cartoons follow certain styles, just like anime, but it is the different takes that the japanese have on a topic that makes it enjoyable. The comment about culture shock earlier may catch some and turn them away from anime but its that difference that I always found intriguing.

Next is the quality of the work that comes out in anime. Honestly the only place that I see US animation that is anywhere close to the stuff you get out of anime is in the full length features like Disney puts out. For whatever reason anime always had a quality edge that the us companies just couldnt match. US animation has the feel of a bunch of hack work as often as not. Like it was in a hurry for a deadline and so they just got it put out and left it at that whereas most all anime I've ever seen is just about a piece of art. Same thing with the music of anime compared to its US counterparts. There is almost always a big name behind an anime doing the opening themes and closing themes where you get lucky if the music from a US cartoon is anything besides a little orchestra stuff. So there is another difference for you to think about.

I think Ill stop my rambling for a bit and see what everybody else has to say now. Wink
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ChobitZ



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:30 pm Reply with quote
How about the relevance of anime towards the older audience versus the younger audience?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:25 pm Reply with quote
I read (or seen) somewhere that the father of Japanese anime actually started from Disney's style of drawing. (how they made the eyes really big and such). You can write about how it has evolved from the first anime produced.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:22 pm Reply with quote
When I lood at anime, I view as another form of entertainment (e.g., growing grass, video games, duct tape) I would say that some anime have much more thought put into them then, say, a sitcom or reality show. As Immorel said, I like the fact that (as a whole) appears to be made to a higher quality than American animation.

I like anime because in most cases, it is presented in a third-person objective format (something rare in literature) A good anime is like a well-crafted and executed play. When it's done, you've experienced the entertainment intended, and you have been given new thoughts and questions to ponder. A short story is (semi)defined as a prose fiction written for entertainment and insight (into human nature) I would argue that many anime in existence are of the same calibur of similar-genre movies, based on the aforementioned criteria.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:08 am Reply with quote
Personally, I enjoy anime because it is close enough to realistic for people to relate, and far enough from realistic for people to escape into the world. The storylines are intriguing, the characters are dynamic and make you believe that they are real, the animation itself is extraordinary and (IMHO) looks better than live-action or American animation, the music is great... I can go on and on. Anime provides a fantasy that people can immerse themselves in, one that they wish they could be a part of, and for 20-30 minutes, they are a part of. We rejoice in the happiness of the characters and cry at their sorrow. When new life is born, we walk around with smiles. When someone dies, we stare at the screen blankly, wondering how it was possible. We get attached to the storylines, the characters, and everything about the anime. Personally, I cry after watching the last ep of an anime, just because I can never re-immerse myself in that world again without knowing what will happen later, which gives me a feeling of detachment. Anime is great because we are as much a part of it as w are the real world.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:50 pm Reply with quote
4elements5 wrote:
I read (or seen) somewhere that the father of Japanese anime actually started from Disney's style of drawing. (how they made the eyes really big and such). You can write about how it has evolved from the first anime produced.

Hmm. Well, it's a nice idea, but I don't really want to make this into a history paper, par say. But thanks anyway.

As for the reasons I watch anime, I think I explained it in another post quite a while ago. The post was about "will I be watching anime in the next 10/20 years." Here's what I said, but my thoughts have changed a little since then:

Sure. Why not? Everyone has an imagination, and anime is the perfect outlet to display that interest. 20 years ago, I was conceived. 10 years ago, I was in 5th grade playing with action figures and other children's toys.

But anime is different. The difference between anime and action figures is basically the level of intelligence. As children, we were probably pretty simple-minded enough to where we could entertain ourselves easily by just picking up a G.I. Joe or Ninja Turtle and make them do stuff.

Today, if you saw a 25 year old man playing with Power Ranger action figures, what would you say to yourself? "Man that guy's weird." Or "man, that guy should grow up." Entertainment gives (most) humans a certain amount of pleasure. As we grow, our minds develop, and our tastes change to something a little more mature.

I'm sure when you were 5 years old, you never thought about how attractive teenage girls were and how much you'd like to date them and do...., well, "stuff" with them. As we grow up, so do our minds. In the aspect of entertainment, I suppose we developed a desire for adventure in our imaginations and that since we can't really do anything about it in reality, due to physical restrictions or whatnot, then we look to fiction, and in this case anime (or manga), to feed that infinite amount of imagination that we so want to live out.

I guess I can't really explain why entertainment or anime gives us such a rush, but in short, YES if anime continues to develop as it is doing so today, I'll probably still be watching it 10-20 years from now. That is if I'm still alive. And besides, human history has already shown that improvement is always something to strive for. And in terms of anime, I guess those animators and manga writers will try to keep it coming.
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molloaggie



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:40 am Reply with quote
I would definitely not tell everybody that anime is a life changing experience. It's just good entertainment when you come down to it.

Anime just has all those good entertainment features that American television has lost for most of it's programs. We love those rags to riches stories, watching the rich guys fall from power, seeing true friends stick up for each other... and a good plot.

Anime titles actually have endings, unlike most sitcoms nowadays. Ending are extremely important. Sitcoms today just move the time slot and the viewers slowly drift away.

I think the sci-fi titles in Anime are the most drastic in comparison to American titles. We have Star Trek and Captain Picard. They have Evangelion and Shinji Ikari. Hollywood finally has the CG technology to produce classy BIG flicks again. However, if Japan comes out with a good EVA live production, it means they'll have beaten Hollywood.
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