Forum - View topicAnyone else reading Loveless?
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animefan473
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I have to admit to getting hooked on this one. I found the anime first, than started to read the manga because the anime left me with alot of unanswered questions. After 7 volumes of the manga, I have to say I think it's way better than the anime. Alot more depth to it. I find myself really looking forward to future volumes.
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stuckinfresno
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Umm, while I happen to agree with on this, I think you would be getting more of a response if asked a question or directed this on a particular aspect of the work. Otherwise, this feels like a random comment. Perhaps try something like why there is more depth to it or spoiler[ asking about who may be Loveless' fighter unit or what will be the impact of the all-out school royal?] You know something to get people talking. |
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animefan473
Posts: 36 Location: Somewhere between here and there |
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Ok, well really what I was curious about after watching the anime was the exact nature of the relationship between Soubi and Seimei and how the "Wisdom Resurrection" game fit in with Septimal Moon. The manga hasn't completely answered these questions yet, after all we're at Volume 7 and there's still more to come, but it is covering these things in much greater detail. That's really where I was going with "more depth". |
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stuckinfresno
Posts: 223 Location: Fresno, CA |
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Seimei is an interesting character. Using the manga as a base he is quite difficult to understand. One minute he is the loving brother and the next we are told that he has this dramatically alter ego. I'd love to know more about how he and Soubi interacted, especially with the "Wisdom" game. It seems that his character in the game is very much like himself in real life. Everyone thinks he's this great hero (whether it is the Wisdom characters or Ritsuka in "real" life), but he most certainly is not. That's where more info on Soubi would be helpful. He absolutely has the clues to this mystery. However, I would also like to know more about Nisei. He is the third part to this triangle. spoiler[ Is he really Beloved's fighter unit? So what is Soubi? Is he Loveless' fighter now? ]
That said, I think that this questions fits the duality of the entire series. Everyone has the other side that appears from time to time. That what makes this series so complex. |
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animefan473
Posts: 36 Location: Somewhere between here and there |
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I can understand why Ritsuka felt the way he did about Seimei. Seimei was his big brother, so Ritsuka idolized him. I found it interesting that when the daker side of Seimei was revealed, it seemed like Ritsuka really knew it all along, but he was trying to ignore the truth about Seimei.
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stuckinfresno
Posts: 223 Location: Fresno, CA |
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To true! He handled it rather well.
Let's see, I'm interested to hear your ideas on this. My favorite of the series has been the zero team. Back in book 4 (?), when they are recuperating at Soubi's apartment, I love how Youji is playing Wisdom and makes comments on Seimei's character. Plus this scene leads into his true feelings about being abandoned. My point in this is that, is it just me or are the Zeros more "human" when they were abandoned? Now in book 7, they seem to be back to their ways and mindlessly following orders (well maybe not Natsuo). Or is this just another example of character duality? Where the Zeros are normal people when they are freed of Seven's control and mindless slaves when they are being controled. I feel that they mirror Soubi in a way because I think he acts like this sometimes. *Looks up* Hopefully, you understand the question in there because it's kinda muddled. 
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animefan473
Posts: 36 Location: Somewhere between here and there |
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I undertsand (I think) what you mean. I have to confess that I didn't really pick up on it before, but I went back to Vol 4 and I think you're right. As I understand it, the Zeros were created to be the "idea" figther units. When the pair was abandoned, I'm thinking that was probably the first time in their lives when nobody was around to give them orders. They were basically thinking for themselves for the first time. That may explain why they seemed more human. Hope that makes sense. 
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stuckinfresno
Posts: 223 Location: Fresno, CA |
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No that answered the question. Good job for figuring about what I was trying to say (even I wasn't too sure).
Okay let's ask a more generic question. Who is the most interesting character in the series and why? I would actually have to pick the computer hacker from Seven (I can't think of her name! Arrh!). She has been used to explain pivotal plot points and seems to be to go to girl in the Seven group. All of the Seven members seem to have no issues or problems with her and that makes me think she may be more of a neutral character. Plus, who here doesn't love her otaku ways? Moreover, the way she interacts with Ritsuka and forces him to actually think before he speaks makes her rather unusal. |
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animefan473
Posts: 36 Location: Somewhere between here and there |
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I would have to go with Soubi on this one. To me, he's an enigma. He has expressed a desire to have a master, to be controled by someone but frankily, his interactions with Ritsuka leave me wondering who is really being controlled. To me it seems as though he minipulates Ritsuka and holds certain things back, only letting Ritsuka know as much as he wants him to at any given time. It seems like he's trying to make it so that Ritsuka is dependant on him. I'm just not sure what his intentions really are.
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LydiaDianne
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Well, from watching episodes of CSI and Criminal Minds (forgive me for this, guys) The submissive is usually the one in control. But, then again, Soubi is much older than Ritsuka and, yes, he does know more than he's letting on. He may be holding out because he really does want to protect Ritsuka and it may have something to do with the fact that Ritsuka's memories are gone. |
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animefan473
Posts: 36 Location: Somewhere between here and there |
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You might be right, Lydia. I guess I don't entirely trust Soubi. I like him as a character, but I don't trust him.
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NocturnalUX
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I'm currently half-ways through volume 4 and I'd say that I agree with you on Soubi being the most interesting character so far. Although I really enjoy Ritsuka's existential debate and how mature he is without ceasing to be a kid at heart. Soubi is indeed an enigma. For all his borderline obsession to be commanded he does seem to be the one in control. His thoughts on pain are also extremely interesting. |
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animefan473
Posts: 36 Location: Somewhere between here and there |
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I think Ritsuka may well end up being alot more interesting than he has been so far, which isn't to say he's completely uninteresting as is, I just get the feeling that there is more to him than has been revealed, even through Volume 7.
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c.rescentro.ses
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I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED the anime. I started reading the manga because I had unanswered questions too. However the manga made me extremely angry because it was even more confusing and I had just seen the anime so it became boring.
I've decided that I won't read it until I can do the entire manga in one sitting. |
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