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Sayajin



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:44 pm Reply with quote
Well this question is more geared towards those of us who have been watching anime for a number of years and have seen countless series.

What are some "Classics" you finally got around to watching somewhat recently?

Now by classic I dont necessarily mean old school. I mean a series that is deemed to be timeless. One that every otaku worth his dirt is "supposed" to have seen. Kinda like Evangelion, wither you like it or not you "HAVE" to have seen it if u call youself an Otaku. Now its okay if the series is old school, im just saying dont neglect one of the "new classics" such as Hagane no Renkinjutsushi aka, Full Metal Alchemist.

Personally I finally got around to watching AA! Megami-sama! both the old one and the 2005 one, Midori no Hibi and Ayashi no Ceres. The latter I didint even think I was going to like, I more watched it becuase whenever someone was talking about it and I said that I had not seen it yet, they looked at me crazy. I felt obligated to watch it. Turns out it was a pretty good series and I would recommend it. Also Death Note, if you can call it a "new classic" yet. It was just one of those things where even though everyone and their mother was watching the series and raving about it, I didint think it would be of interest to me. Boy was I wrong! Turned out to be one of my FAVORITE series. Hell I didint even start to watch it until a few months after the whole series was complete and everyone else I know has been following it from the beginning. Death Note is the contruibtor to me new mantra in life: WWYLD? What would Yagami Light Do? lol. I plan to watch School Rumble next, hopefully I wont be dissapointed by it!

So what are some "classics" old or new you finally got around to watching? Also put what you thought of the series.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:50 pm Reply with quote
I watched Eva last year and finished Haibane Renmei earlier this year. I thought Eva was all right. It had such a strong base but since almost nothing of the actual plot is explained at the end, it only focuses on characters, it lost my interest. I don't like such open gaping holes everywhere.

Same thing with H.B. I had more opinions of what was going on but I just simply never got to learn what the whole world in it was about as the anime deals with the characters. Without a decent conclusion that explains a lot of mechanics of why/how, I usually can't rate that title any higher than a 7 or 8 at best.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:22 pm Reply with quote
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One that every otaku worth his dirt is "supposed" to have seen. Kinda like Evangelion, wither you like it or not you "HAVE" to have seen it if u call youself an Otaku.


Guess I'm just being a grumpy old bitter man again, but why would someone have to have seen Eva to be an otaku? Why do I have to watch certain things to to be considered worth my dirt as an anime fan? Just curious about the rise is labels recently we seem to be shoving off. Guess I'm just getting senile and bitter early on.

I will say one series that recently everyone has seen that I just watched through was Ghost in the Shell: SAC. I've seen them on AS and have the dvds but I never sat down and watched them straight through. So I decided to sit down and watch both seasons straight through. While I had seen them all before it was nice to watch them in order finally.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:32 pm Reply with quote
Agent Aika. After 10 or so years of hearing about it -- I went ahead and watched it recently. Twisted Evil
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Sayajin



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:34 pm Reply with quote
psycho 101 wrote:
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One that every otaku worth his dirt is "supposed" to have seen. Kinda like Evangelion, wither you like it or not you "HAVE" to have seen it if u call youself an Otaku.


Guess I'm just being a grumpy old bitter man again, but why would someone have to have seen Eva to be an otaku? Why do I have to watch certain things to to be considered worth my dirt as an anime fan? Just curious about the rise is labels recently we seem to be shoving off. Guess I'm just getting senile and bitter early on.



While I definitely understand where you are coming from, unfortunately thats just not how it works in real life. Believe me, I understand you completely as I HATED Eva, but its just one of those things people expect you to watch if your an Otaku. Its kinda like Akira, if you tell someone you have been watching anime for years and have seen XXXXX amount of series, and then tell them you have never seen Akira, people look at you crazy. Im not saying its right, im just saying thats the way it is. Wouldn't you agree?

Its kinda like if you call yourself a Shakespeare Major, but have never read Hamlet. Shakespeare had TONS of other works besides Hamlet, plenty that most people like better than hamlet. But walk into a group of die hard Shakespeare people, call yourself one, and then tell them you haven't read Hamlet. Your asking to be strung up by your toes. Or like a cigar connoisseur who has never had a Cohiba. Other connoisseurs would do nothing but make fun of you if you told them that. Personally I hate Cohiba, I think its too medium bodied of a cigar and would take a Partagas Black over one any day of the week, but tell a cigar aficionado youve never had a cohiba and see if they still value your opinion on cigars.

I cant justify or explain why its that way, I just say it how it is. When you call yourself a connoisseur or an expert on something, people just expect for you to know the popular items/works on that subject. Thats just how it is.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:01 pm Reply with quote
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psycho 101 wrote:
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One that every otaku worth his dirt is "supposed" to have seen. Kinda like Evangelion, wither you like it or not you "HAVE" to have seen it if u call youself an Otaku.


Guess I'm just being a grumpy old bitter man again, but why would someone have to have seen Eva to be an otaku? Why do I have to watch certain things to to be considered worth my dirt as an anime fan? Just curious about the rise is labels recently we seem to be shoving off. Guess I'm just getting senile and bitter early on.



While I definitely understand where you are coming from, unfortunately thats just not how it works in real life. Believe me, I understand you completely as I HATED Eva, but its just one of those things people expect you to watch if your an Otaku. Its kinda like Akira, if you tell someone you have been watching anime for years and have seen XXXXX amount of series, and then tell them you have never seen Akira, people look at you crazy. Im not saying its right, im just saying thats the way it is. Wouldn't you agree?

Its kinda like if you call yourself a Shakespeare Major, but have never read Hamlet. Shakespeare had TONS of other works besides Hamlet, plenty that most people like better than hamlet. But walk into a group of die hard Shakespeare people, call yourself one, and then tell them you haven't read Hamlet. Your asking to be strung up by your toes. Or like a cigar connoisseur who has never had a Cohiba. Other connoisseurs would do nothing but make fun of you if you told them that. Personally I hate Cohiba, I think its too medium bodied of a cigar and would take a Partagas Black over one any day of the week, but tell a cigar aficionado youve never had a cohiba and see if they still value your opinion on cigars.

I can't justify or explain why its that way, I just say it how it is. When you call yourself a connoisseur or an expert on something, people just expect for you to know the popular items/works on that subject. Thats just how it is.


-Sayajin


I can understand that but I guess I just see a difference between being a fan/otaku and being a connoisseur. If such a thing exists in the anime world, though I suppose it would.
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Sayajin



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:27 pm Reply with quote
psycho 101 wrote:

I can understand that but I guess I just see a difference between being a fan/otaku and being a connoisseur. If such a thing exists in the anime world, though I suppose it would.


Ahh, well that right there is the answer. It all depends on your defintion of the word otaku.

Forgive me, when I use the word Otaku, I dont refer to the casual or even experienced anime fan. I refer to someone who is very close to the original JPN meaning of the word minus the negative connotation. An Otaku to me is a die hard/connoisseur/aficionado. Someone who spends quite a bit/most of their free time (or at least has at one point) on anime. I dont like to use the term lightly probably because when the word first came out to America, back when I was first getting into anime, it was reserved for a select few. I suppose over the years the word has begun to encompass more people.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:35 pm Reply with quote
Well thanks for explaining what otaku means to you. It makes more of your previous posts make sense. To me at least. Sorry, slow week for my brain I suppose.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:10 pm Reply with quote
This is a rather odd question to post, since titles considered "must see" by otakus in the Japanese sense of the word are, more often than not, not even cult classics; certainly they are almost all not worth the venerable adjective of "timeless." Otakus in the Western sense, encompassing a larger body of people with more varied tastes, would more likely to recommend titles that turn out to be classics than those in the Japanese sense. In the interest of having a sensible reply, I will take the Anglicized meaning of the word. Although, to be perfectly honest, I would say that those put forth by critics as classics would suit the purpose of this topic the best, however much I may ignore critical reception of titles when choosing what to watch.

Classics, being famous titles with some time associated with them, mostly fall into three categories of increasing size: those that I've been trying to acquire with no luck; those that I have already seen; those in which I have no interest. The most recent classic title I've seen--and that I've not seen before--was Anne of Green Gables last year. With some luck and energy, I shall add Galaxy Express 999 to this list in the near future.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:09 am Reply with quote
well i am just watching saint seiya!!!
a very traditional shounen anime! all the tears and the blood and the manliness Razz well it is something that you do not see very often now days(it is kind of weird thought...hehehehe)!!!
Recently i was watching Voltes 5... and space runaway ideon
other classic in Greece at least that i got to see is ika no Kabamaru, plawres sanshiro, captain harlock (my favorite anime ever...and it is not complete...snif...), and candy candy(i never realy liked it thought)

personally i am more of an archaeologist...i love my retro!!!!
there is something in them from my childhood !

and i hope to start legend of galactic heroes soon (well after the subbing is finished) i saw the movie and it is the best thing i have ever seen...well for me anyway!!! Mr. Green
i olso want to watch and the first series of Gundam!

those are very very old classics of course...
the ones you noted i have seen them all except school rumble ...are they all classics?? maybe in a couple of decades Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:40 am Reply with quote
I've seen classics like Akira and had come to watch it just recently but what I really want to see again is Robotech: The Macross Saga and G-Force. Anyway I'm wondering how you guys call something "classic"... Because my perception of classic would be the impact of the title to the industry... Do you call an anime classic because of popularity? I'm not sure just a stupid question... Confused I'm just really wondering because I don't see Midori no Hibi and Ayashi no Ceres classic although they had their moments... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:32 am Reply with quote
There is no such thing as an anime you HAVE to watch to be considered a true anime fan. Just watching anime makes you a true anime fan. Just watching A LOT of anime, any anime, makes you a fanatic. I'm not using the word "otaku" simply because I see no reason to; I don't personally have a problem with it, but I like using English words when possible.

I personally have not seen Evangelion. I also haven't seen Akira, or the original Ghost in the Shell movie (though that is one I do own). I do, however, consider myself to at least be a "true anime fan". I've never heard anyone say the stuff you listed is a "must-see to be a fan", except Eva. FMA is good, but it's not right for everyone. Should they HAVE to see something they won't enjoy? Kinda like how I've read synopses and reviews for Haruhi Suzumiya, and I can just tell it's not something I'd enjoy. Should I still watch it? I think not.

Ah My Goddess! is a good series (though Flights of Fancy was kinda lame from what I saw), but it's not something that clicks with everyone. I've NEVER heard Midori no Hibi, Ceres, or School Rumble listed as must-sees before, though School Rumble is amazing. I will never watch Ceres, however, because I detest Watase. Death Note is far too new to be a classic, and is also not a must-see.

The only anime titles I know of that have anywhere near universal appeal would be Ghibli movies, particularly Miyazaki, but even then, they're not a must.

But as for classics that I've recently gotten around to, I've recently started Rose of Versailles (which I REALLY wish would get licensed; I don't like watching anime on the computer), and I did buy Ghost in the Shell. I do intend to get the Eva thinpak sometime, as well as pick up some other things like Otaku no Video. I really want boxes of Urusei Yatsura and Lupin III, too...

EDIT: I understand where you're coming from (though I still can't call Ayashi no Ceres a classic), but at the time people first started using the term "otaku", there really wasn't much anime commercially available, so having "must-see" lists made more sense, considering there wasn't a lot of choice in what one could buy or even see fansubbed. Now, however, there is a ton of anime available to buy, and it's nonsensical to buy things that you know you won't like. Not to mention virtually anything can be seen in fansubs, and time is valuable, so you have to be more selective in that area as well.


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I have the original Macross on my rental queue, and I'm looking forward to that. I recently bought Gankutsuou after watching it as a rental and I think it may very well become a "classic" -- the timelessness and quality of the story and the amazing animation combine to make it a must-see IMHO.
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I recently watched Akira, and I must say I was impressed since it was better than I thought it would be. I was looking forward to my favorite iconic scenes from the manga being portrayed, however, they were overlooked, I'm assuming, because of time constraints. Most notably is when Tetsuo is riding down the highway on a motorcycle with his arms crossed. I also didn't understand why spoiler[Akira was actually dead and dismembered in the film even thought he "came back" after the children called him. I was looking forward to the seeing him and it was sort of a let down.]Overall, I'm glad I saw it and I thought that it ended up reaching the same conclusion as the manga in a lot less time, and I applaud them for that. Since I have it on DVD, I'm also looking forward to the special features and the "capsule" option where in certain scenes you can click on the icon to find out more about what was going on during the creation process.
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