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Unholy_Nny
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I know someone mentioned this is the discussion thread for the Claymore 7 review, but...
What's up with reviewing something smack dab in the middle (In this case, end) of a series, without any previous reviews? As far as I know most people read reviews to get an opinion on something before checking it out. If I'm going to read a review for a series I want to check out, I'm personally not gonna take my chances with semi-spoilers by reading an end-of-the series review. It really wouldn't be bad at all if at least the first DVD was reviewed, even just the second, but... Come on! Seriously, because it's even the last DVD for the season it could be a series review instead of a DVD review. I just don't understand it. EDIT: The review was done fairly well, though. It gave the series a fair score for the quality and was pretty much spot on with everything. The stab at DearS was a bit mean, though... Even though it was pretty awful, lol. Despite that, Peach Pit is one of my favorite manga writers, dunno why, they just are. Maybe I like stuff that sucks... |
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tamaneko
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It means the reviewer is a mainstream anime fan with no taste whatsoever in real anime, simple as that. He obviously doesn't realize how popular the show is in Japan. Hell, even the next Prime Minister of Japan is a fan of the manga.
Also, in before ~desu desu desu |
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Neverwhere
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0__0 Wow. I am literally in awe of you right now. 
Carl also reviewed Mushishi, which I think most sane people would agree is on a radically different level than Rozen Maiden, and is much more difficult to catagorize and is ANYTHING but 'mainstream'. By your logic popular does *not* equate to mainstream, so therefore shows like Naruto and Fate/Stay Night are not mainstream at all, but niche titles for the elite like you to enjoy. Just, wow. 
Don't insult the reviewer, say WHY you think the review is unfair and justify yourself in your arguments. And before you accuse me of being 'against' you and your show in any way, I enjoyed Rozen Maiden, albeit as the mildly entertaining fluff it is. And there's nothing wrong with that! There are lots of fun shows that are merely entertaining fluff, that doesn't diminish their value, it just means they aren't masterpieces to be placed on pedals for glory. And you're really not helping your cause by bringing chanspeak into this forum. Just so you know. : ) |
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tamaneko
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[quote="Neverwhere"]
Now what would the point be in that? The reviewer has obviously made up his mind that Rozen Maiden sucks. What the hell, why am I posting here anyway? This is the same place that actually COMPLAINED about Rozen Maiden being licensed when it was first announced, and some of you even had the gall to claim that horrible Disgaea anime was BETTER than Rozen Maiden. Bah. |
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ImperialPanda
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Jun is incredibly annoying and stereotypical, I'll agree to that. But I liked virtually every other character.
I also think the reviewer's dislike of the characters played too large a role in his overall rating of RM. While a review will always have some subjectivity, how you rate a show shouldn't be based on personal taste, but rather on comparisons against similar shows.
I agree that the drama in RM is pretty loopy and all too often incoherent. However I don't think that necessarily detracts from RM's value as light entertainment. The drama episodes' story doesn't hold up well. But since the drama is largely separated from the comedy (noted in review as "poor pacing") I don't think they affect each other all that much. A little harsh on the final grade, but still a fair review overall. |
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Zac
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How dare he have an opinion that doesn't mirror my own!!!! |
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Dingé
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Zac > world. |
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ZaWarudo
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It seems to me the reviewer doesn't care much for the genre. Which makes it somewhat useless as a guide for people who do like this kind of story. How useful would a review of a fighting shounen be if it was done by a guy who hates shounen?
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Unholy_Nny
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Well, as far as you know he is a fan. The only flaw with the review is that it's for the last DVD... Which no one aside from me seems to care about. Besides, if you let someone who is clearly a fanboy do the review, that is when it becomes unfair. I'd rather watch an underrated medium-good quality anime than an overrated piece of trash. In this case, Rozen Maiden is overrated in the fan community and would've received a score too good for it if done by a fan. (I'm personally a fan but I also would have given it a C) Plus, ya'know, these are professional reviews. It needs to be balanced and truthful no matter what the opinion on the genre is. |
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Jackmace Ryo
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Well, the most important thing about a review are not the letter (that brings the attitude for something like...oh.. dammit it's C for a show that I enjoyed. the reviewer is biased...).
Rather than that, it is the content of the review itself. A review is basically meant for those who hasn't watch it yet to give insight to what they're gonna watch and decide whether one should buy it or not depending on his/her personal taste. The problem is, some people just judge a review based on the score given, not by the content of the review.... If one is going to disagree with the reviewer, he/she would have to show the point in the reviewer get the facts wrong or show noticeable bias about the thing reviewed. |
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Unholy_Nny
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Normally don't do something like this, but... I couldn't help myself =)
EDIT: Fixed quote tags, then had to fix them again, ugh... |
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Tony K.
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People, it's just a review by one person. If you think it's some kind of horrible injustice that he doesn't like it as much as you, apply to become an ANN reviewer and make your own. Otherwise, just take this as another person's opinion based on his own personal preferences and experiences and move on.
I've disagreed with some reviews given in the past. And trust me, it does you no good to just complain about it and call the reviewer names. If you actually have an argument, then provide some reasons or logic. And if it bugs you that much, just make your own thread in the Anime forums and try endorse it for your own sake or anyone else you think might be a fan of said titles. By the way, I didn't like this series either. Search the Anime forums for my replies "~desu, desu, desu..."  .
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angel_lover
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Strange. I see the Rozen Maiden franchise as one of the more emotionally, pschologically and semiotically complex ones. For me, it has an aching emotional depth, dealing with alienation, rejection, gender identity, incest, and other topics. It's like the Pygmalion myth with the protagonists splintered into several (and therefore inherently incomplete) characters. Anyway, it's a shame the review was so shallow, but no harm done following the bizarre decision to start reviewing at the last volume - if people have already bought the other two volumes then they're likely to buy this one too.
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Aromatic Grass
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Lately, this is all that review threads have turned into. Can't we have a discussion on something other than the reviewer? I buy a series I'm interested in regardless of the review, although I can say that reviews affect the probability of me buying one series over another.
Rozen Maiden has never even been on my "to check out" list. Who knows? Reviews can change my mind, but not with this one, because I don't want to waste my money on something that's not up to par. Still, I agree with Unholy that there should probably a review for the first DVD as well. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Posted this in the Claymore thread, posting it here too:
Okay folks, here's how this works. We review what companies send us. To say that Geneon's track record for sending out screeners has been "sporadic" and often "bizarre" would be pretty generous. Sometimes we'll get volume 2 but not volume 1. Sometimes we'll get volumes 5,6,7,8 and 9 but not 1-4. If one of our critics decides he wants to rent or buy an earlier volume himself and review it he can, but that's not my decision to make. Generally, if a critic is reviewing a later volume of something, it means that they've read or watched the previous volumes but are reviewing the newest one because that's what people are interested in. What I'm gathering from all this complaining is that you don't want us to review a new volume of something without having reviewed every previous volume, even if the critic has seen all previous volumes and is just reviewing the newest one. Even if the critic is taking the previous volumes into account in his review of the latest volume, that is still not valid. We have to have a review of every single volume of every series we cover. Here's my take on that: it's nice when we can review every single volume of something, but when we can't, there's no harm and no foul in reviewing the latest volume of something as a way of "checking in" with an ongoing series. Our critics don't just randomly pick a volume, watch it and then review that; they watch the whole thing and review the latest volume. That, to me, is fine. If that's not what you folks want then maybe I'll rethink that. I'm trying to figure out what in the world your logic is for complaining about this rather than just dismissing it as the usual whining and gnashing of teeth when a review doesn't exactly match your own opinion, so you come into the forums and start complaining about systemic problems with how we do things rather than just disagreeing with the opinion presented in the review. So please do me the courtesy of using reasonable logic to explain your viewpoint on this issue. |
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