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Slate.com Article on Manga, Anime and Hentai




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PS: Do you guys think I should have covered this in the news?
Yes
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No
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Tempest
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:13 am Reply with quote
Slate.com is running a series of articles by Seth Stevenson, a regular contributor to Slate that was sent to Japan for two months on a media scolarship from the Japan Society.

The articles are daily, and Tuesday's talked about anime. Well, actually, it started talking about manga and how pervasive it is in Japanese culture, it then briefly mentionned regular anime before plunging into a look at hentai that took up the second two thirds of the article.

You should be able to find the article here, but if that takes you to another one of his entries, the article in question is the "Tokyo on One Cliché a Day" for Tuesday, October 14.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:24 am Reply with quote
Well....as much as I'd like to say "No, it shouldn't be run because it makes pretty much all anime look like porn"...I think it should be run in the news, just because ANN shouldn't just run the stories that make anime look good. If anything, it'll show that there still are people out there (even Americans in Japan) that think most anime is hentai.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:44 am Reply with quote
Actually, that wasn't the issue. I'm more wondering about interest and importance.

We stopped writting about every anime related article in the mainstream press years ago.

But this being Slate.com / MSN.com , it's an important enough website. But is the article itself of any importance or interest to ANN's readers?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:24 am Reply with quote
Nahhh, this was just one small article in a two-month long rant about what's weird in Japan.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:51 am Reply with quote
Hmm... the second one sounds like Professor Pain... but anyway. No, I don't think it needs to be news. The fact that they recognize anime is good(that's what we want, right?)Unfortunately, the article reflects on hentai,which is not good for publicity and does not represent anime as a whole. I don't have a problem with the existence of hentai, I just maintain a nice, safe distance. The article also continually refers to anime/manga as cartoons, as opposed to the art form it is supposed to be. Oh well, they're only American....
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:52 am Reply with quote
Hmm... the second one sounds like Professor Pain... but anyway. No, I don't think it needs to be news. The fact that they recognize anime is good(that's what we want, right?)Unfortunately, the article reflects on hentai,which is not good for publicity and does not represent anime as a whole. I don't have a problem with the existence of hentai, I just maintain a nice, safe distance. The article also continually refers to anime/manga as cartoons, as opposed to the art form it is supposed to be. Oh well, they're only American....
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:42 pm Reply with quote
Hentai.. Its really easy.
1. You like it and you watch it.
or..
2. You dont like it and you dont watch it.

I like hentai and all who whines about hentai should be ignored. I do prefer normal anime tho..
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:04 pm Reply with quote
I think this is another one of the million or so, "Oh, those wacky Japanese!" articles that have been done over and over again. You're probably better off not doing anything with it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:20 pm Reply with quote
*rolls eyes* Yep, another "Those Crazy Japanese People! What Will They Think Of Next?" articles. No, it doesn't need to be in the news. I mean, yeah, some people are perverted. It's the same way here, and in every other country, but it doesn't make these people any less of a person, unless they try to *ahem* act out these shows. I happen to like yaoi. Does that make me a freak? No, it really doesn't.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:52 pm Reply with quote
Well, I'd concede that it's a tad more newsworthy than the sincere-but-misinformed op-ed column from Julie McBride-Wyatt in August, which ANN rightfully didn't cover (I found the reaction to that column far more annoying than the column itself), since this article is on a fairly well-known Internet site which is part of the NBC/Microsoft system of news, business and entertainment websites and it's written by someone in Japan sympathetic to the people, not just a column written in a medium-circulation regional paper by an American woman who found an anime programme which she didn't particularly care for on an American station, but I generally agree with the basic premise that articles written about anime in mainstream media sources are now so frequent that they are no longer newsworthy unless there's something especially remarkable about the article. I've seen very similar reactions to anime, manga and hentai ("Oh, how amusingly weird those Japanese people are with their porn comics!") in various places for nearly a decade, so, no, there is no reason to mention it on the main page. Calling attention to every little article, review or column which touches upon anime, manga or hentai that appears anywhere in a semi-mainstream media source these days really amounts to little more than "anime fan navel-gazing".
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:56 pm Reply with quote
space clam wrote:
The article also continually refers to anime/manga as cartoons, as opposed to the art form it is supposed to be. Oh well, they're only American....


Erm... some of us anime fans have no problem applying the "c" word to Japanese-made (Korean in-betweened and coloured) animated productions intended primarily for the Japanese market, so, if I had any problems with that article, that was not one of them.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:44 pm Reply with quote
News worthy?...Nah. Every anime fan who has been a fan for a li'l while knows about hentai. The only difference between that article and a antihentai...say, thread, is that more people will see the article.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:56 pm Reply with quote
No, you shouldn't post it. At the same time, you should consider writing a letter to the editor at Slate letting them know that their reporter was somewhat clueless. Who knows, it might be remembered a few years from now by some editor or more likely, ran across by some reporter now in a dead file next time they do an Anime story. Of course, that might mean they would be knocking on your door.

P.S. Thanks for asking us.
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