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rockerboy1997137



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:27 pm Reply with quote
well i was talking to my dad and telling him about this one manga i wanted he said he wants to find it in town and read it and se it its ok. but let me get right the point while he while he was checking it out online for me he looked for some christian manga and he's a really strong christian and he's a pastor at my church so now i have to read manga messiah i mean i like it some but you read it forwards and it's all, story's i have heard so nothing great and also the boy angel looks like a girl?!

i mean it's nice of him to buy me thing's but i don't really like this stuff
i'm not a big fan of american comic's infact most american comics SUCK!!
the manga messiah is ok but my only problem

it's colored
it's not forwards
and c'mon it the manga messiah i mean im already bummed enough going to church!

and also he bought me another comic he calls a "graphic novel"

and looking at american 3d cheapo none manga comic
the "dreamland chronicle's"
and looking at this i think this sucks!
it's not as bad i as i thought but i had so much problems with this!

3d art which makes character's look odd
colored panels
cheap story!
and looks like this is for 6 year old's!!!

it's about a teenaged guy who had dreams with little fairy freinds
when he was twelve now living in a boarding school with his brother his mom sends a bunch old stuff and he has a cross neclace and that's what makes him dream!

there not so bad and mabye im overreacting but i just dont know what to do cause if i say i do like them he'll buy me more!!
please help!!
thanks!
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BunnyCupCakes



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:37 pm Reply with quote
To be honest,just tell him you don't like it.
Say you're thank-ful he's trying to help out but it's not your thing
:]

And not all American comics suck.
You just have to look harder.
>.>
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chichiriNoDa



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:03 pm Reply with quote
Tell your dad that you don't like them.


One question though, the "Messiah" that you mentioned, does the story starts off with this boy (who have glasses) found a love letter in his locker?
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rockerboy1997137



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:18 pm Reply with quote
chichiriNoDa wrote:
Tell your dad that you don't like them.


One question though, the "Messiah" that you mentioned, does the story starts off with this boy (who have glasses) found a love letter in his locker?

no no manga messiah is like a manga bible!
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rockerboy1997137



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:19 pm Reply with quote
BunnyCupCakes wrote:
To be honest,just tell him you don't like it.
Say you're thank-ful he's trying to help out but it's not your thing
:]

And not all American comics suck.
You just have to look harder.
>.>

thanks!
and you're right i should look harder!
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chichiriNoDa



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:21 pm Reply with quote
rockerboy1997137 wrote:
no no manga messiah is like a manga bible!


Oh I though you're talking about "Watashi no Messiah-sama". Never mind then.

Yeah just tell your dad.
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slickwataris



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:57 pm Reply with quote
chichiriNoDa wrote:
rockerboy1997137 wrote:
no no manga messiah is like a manga bible!


Oh I though you're talking about "Watashi no Messiah-sama". Never mind then.

Yeah just tell your dad.


http://www.amazon.com/Manga-Messiah-Hidenori-Kumai/dp/1414316801/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207245414&sr=1-1
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Not a Jellyfish



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:01 pm Reply with quote
Funny thing is that it appears your "Manga Messiah" actually is Japanese.

I think your preconceptions with American comics are dead wrong. There are certainly some American or British comics that are absolutely amazing and just as good, if not better than some manga. Just because it is Japanese does not automatically make it awesome. Also, the mere fact that you are writing off a comic just because it reads in Western style is rather silly. Some of the best manga are translated Western style to appeal to wider audiences. For example, just about any Osamu Tezuka series.

You yourself said they are not that bad. Which means that you are enjoying them, but you are upset by the fact that they are not "manga". Again, being a real manga does not automatically make it awesome. Give yourself a chance to appreciate something else and you may be pleasantly surprised. Your dad is merely trying to compromise with you by getting you something he thinks is appropriate but is still within your interests. At least he is trying to work with you and not merely writing off all comic books. You should be glad that your parents care so much about your well-being and that they are willing to compromise with you.
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infinitebeauty



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:11 pm Reply with quote
rockerboy1997137 wrote:
BunnyCupCakes wrote:
To be honest,just tell him you don't like it.
Say you're thank-ful he's trying to help out but it's not your thing
:]

And not all American comics suck.
You just have to look harder.
>.>

thanks!
and you're right i should look harder!


READ THE NEW BLUE BEETLE! *pimppimp* It's gotten a fair amount of my manga-only friends to give American comics a chance (actually, they take my trades off of me as soon as I've read them) and is amazingly good. Teenaged superhero deals with having a legacy to live up to, school, other superheroes, and has the greatest supporting cast ever. Or there's always Scott Pilgrim (manga? comic? It gets shelved everywhere!) and The Five Fists of Science if mainstream superheroes don't float your boat. And if you like romance, there's My Faith in Frankie, although depending on how old you are, you may not like that. It deals with religion, love, and beliefs (belief in everything) in a balanced way.

More on topic though, would this 'Manga Messiah' happen to be [LINK TO SCANLATIONS REMOVED -TK]?

ETA Oh, haha. You said yours was in color. The link is pretty awesome anyway though. If completely nonsensical.
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einhorn303



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:35 pm Reply with quote
There are some incredible American graphic novels. Godly, I should say.

I actually started reading graphic novels when I was 14, and didn't get much into manga until 4 years later.

Most of the really good American graphic novels are aimed more towards adults (aka 18-32 year olds), as opposed to the generic shounen and shoujo shlock that fills the Border shelves. But I think anyone can appreciate the artistry beyond stuff like The Fountain, David Mack's Kabuki (the "Metamorphisis" volume especially), and...well, all my collection is back at my mom's house. But these two books are like page after page of paintings, they're really beautiful and show great artistic maturity. Plus all the great underground stuff that would never get serialized even in a seinen mag like Afternoon. Sure, Japan has it's Shintaro Kago's and Suehiro Marou's, but we never get them translated so that doesn't count.

tl;dr American comics aren't like manga, but they greatly surpass manga in some areas
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AceRyonik



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:21 pm Reply with quote
Read some goddamn Watchmen, Sandman, Maus, and Transmetropolitan and stop being an elitist. Both cultures produce epic stuff.

And just tell your dad, look, Christianity is cool and all, but any time you precede a word describing ANY form of entertainment with the word "Christian," it's guaranteed to be absolutely terrible. Except for The Prince of Egypt. That movie was awesome.
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infinitebeauty



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:37 am Reply with quote
I have no idea how old you are, but if you want to see an interesting take on Christianity (the main character is a youth minister), and are old enough not to have your parents censor what you read, I heartily recommend 'American Virgin'. The art is lovely and the story is one of the most interesting and thoughtful I've read in a long time.

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And just tell your dad, look, Christianity is cool and all, but any time you precede a word describing ANY form of entertainment with the word "Christian," it's guaranteed to be absolutely terrible. Except for The Prince of Egypt. That movie was awesome.

Hells yes that movie was awesome. Very Happy
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monkeyinalamborghini



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:53 pm Reply with quote
Just tell your dad to get you priest that should solve the problem.
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einhorn303



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:01 am Reply with quote
monkeyinalamborghini wrote:
Just tell your dad to get you priest that should solve the problem.


Do you mean Preacher? IIRC Preacher is an American graphic novel and Priest is Korean.
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monkeyinalamborghini



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:36 pm Reply with quote
Your right. This guy at a comic book store told me to get priest. It looked goth which isn't my thing so I just picked it up and put back down. I was probably fooled by the format which probably wasn't flipped (can't really remember).

Anyway I was just kiddin cause priest does seem to be alot about demons from hell and shotguns and alot less about jesus. I'm atheist so I can't speak for the quality. But here's what I could find online.

Serenity, Goofyfoot Gurl by realbuzz studios. Seems to be it for christain manga other than what other people have already said. There's also a website called theproject.us (sorry don't know the site's policy on urls and I'll look it up rather than continue to be a dick) that seems to have christian reviews of popular manga your dad might find helpful.
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