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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:00 pm Reply with quote
I watched the first episode and loved it.

With the introduction of the alien guest, kinda gave a "Humanity Has Declined" vibe.

The human owner should have canceled the Hot Springs project before leaving for space.

"Sorry Maid Bot 301, you are now assigned to the Hot Springs construction". "Replacing Porter Bot 9 who now is on indefinite leave."
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I'm not sure what it says about me that it bothered me to distraction that neither Yachiyo, the owner, nor the alien ever turned the teacup. Smile

Though it's a bit hard to listen to, I like that the OP theme song is mostly just a bit off key in both vocals and music, almost like it's two different songs playing, or they're out of sync. It feels like it's meant to be unsettling, like it sounds bright and cheerful, but just not quite right for the "this is fine" mood it seems to be aiming for on a surface level. A sort of musical expression of “screams internally.”

Can someone tell me what word is being translated as the Environmental Bot's "babeh"? Just curious.
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Gina Szanboti wrote:
I'm not sure what it says about me that it bothered me to distraction that neither Yachiyo, the owner, nor the alien ever turned the teacup. Smile

Though it's a bit hard to listen to, I like that the OP theme song is mostly just a bit off key in both vocals and music, almost like it's two different songs playing, or they're out of sync. It feels like it's meant to be unsettling, like it sounds bright and cheerful, but just not quite right for the "this is fine" mood it seems to be aiming for on a surface level. A sort of musical expression of “screams internally.”

Can someone tell me what word is being translated as the Environmental Bot's "babeh"? Just curious.


I think the OP song being off is intentional, it doesn't fit the dance either.

TarsTarkas wrote:
I watched the first episode and loved it.

With the introduction of the alien guest, kinda gave a "Humanity Has Declined" vibe.

The human owner should have canceled the Hot Springs project before leaving for space.

"Sorry Maid Bot 301, you are now assigned to the Hot Springs construction". "Replacing Porter Bot 9 who now is on indefinite leave."


I think the hot spring was an idea the robot staff came up with, because it seems like they're trying to build it in an underpass.

Delightful little show, but still not sure what it will actually be about, a weird new guess every episode or will it have more story? The ed seems to heavily feature some sort of tanuki family, but that might just be a mascot character for the hotel.
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I've enjoyed the first two episodes, but man it does get my mind wandering and wondering about things that are probably not that important and will hopefully be addressed, but probably wont be Laughing

The atmosphere becoming toxic is a nice change from the more common plague/war end of the world scenario. Especially since it's less controllable/curable. Going into space or deep underwater is an odd choice though. Surely making domes above ground or even below ground or in mountains would have been a much easier choice? Why even go deep underwater as it appeared, wouldn't much closer to the surface be much easier in terms of construction if you just want to be sealed off from the air?
While the spaceward humans could have just kept flying away from earth and lost contact, surely the underwater humans would have been able to frequent the surface so I guess we just have to presume that that escape attempt failed...
While power can be hand waved away with something like solar power or some future long lasting generator for the building, where are things like the food coming from? Even with wild animals around, none of those robots appear to be hunting and preparing them, let alone something like crab. They also seem to be using way more water a day than could be retrieved from that distant river, so presumably there's another source, but then why go all that way in the first place?
We got confirmation of other robots surviving with the second episode, though since the other environmental robots seemed to have just aged in to failure I'm curious how this one survived if they were spread out across the globe. Did it hunt others down for parts or did it figure out a way to maintain itself? Also curious what kind of responses it was getting from humans, were they just acknowledgements or were they actual conversations?
If that robot survived, then presumably there are plenty of others. Even if the hotel business wasn't keen on using robots as the flashback implied, that level of sophistication implies that they were well established products and (some) are clearly intelligent enough to maintain themselves so there should be lots of them around. Unless the hotel has some unique power source and most robots just shutdown after not being able to charge...
Well, that's all the pointless nitpicking for now, though I'm sure other thoughts will pop up while I'm watching Laughing

Finding a bank to allow the alien to pay was pretty funny. They have to follow their programming to get paid, in the proper currency, but beyond that it doesn't matter how that gets done Laughing

Gina Szanboti wrote:
Can someone tell me what word is being translated as the Environmental Bot's "babeh"? Just curious.


I didn't notice anything (though I easily could have missed a word), so maybe it's just supposed to represent a dialect?
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I wonder what those bills were made of, that they lasted seemingly in the open for a century. Unless they broke into a vault we weren't shown.

Who says the river is far away? There are lots of rivers running through Tokyo (they're in Tokyo, right?) and parks, so the fact that it looks like a forest with wild animals doesn't tell us much, if you've seen a few episodes of Life After People. Smile But the question of their water usage vs the needs of DoorBot still remains. I noticed they seemed to have reduced the latter to a spritz doing the trick, rather than a dousing.

I got a chuckle out of FlyCatcherBot goosing EnviroBot when it was rude to Yachiyo.
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This sure is one of the weirdest anime I have seen. I wonder what kind of development can Al like these have
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:59 pm Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
I wonder what those bills were made of, that they lasted seemingly in the open for a century. Unless they broke into a vault we weren't shown.


The United Kingdom has switched to plastic bills, getting rid of the paper ones. Might be the wave of the future. Also, they could be made out of an even more indestructible material in the future. Being done to counter counterfeiters, so it is not too much of a stretch.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:12 pm Reply with quote
Covnam wrote:

The atmosphere becoming toxic is a nice change from the more common plague/war end of the world scenario. Especially since it's less controllable/curable. Going into space or deep underwater is an odd choice though. Surely making domes above ground or even below ground or in mountains would have been a much easier choice?


The news stories shown seem to imply that the toxin was able to even penetrate their environment suits. Which seemingly was the last straw. So Underground Bunkers and Environmental Domes would have eventually failed.

If the toxin was biological in nature, it probably will still be around, just waiting for someone to dig a hole or clear land. So unless a cure has been found, the Earth is a lost cause. If material in nature, it might degrade after time. Another option it might have been a form of nano machine.
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Gina Szanboti wrote:


Who says the river is far away? There are lots of rivers running through Tokyo (they're in Tokyo, right?) and parks, so the fact that it looks like a forest with wild animals doesn't tell us much, if you've seen a few episodes of Life After People. Smile But the question of their water usage vs the needs of DoorBot still remains. I noticed they seemed to have reduced the latter to a spritz doing the trick, rather than a dousing.


Yes, they are in Tokyo, the Ginza district to be exact. The closest river would be the Sumida River which is about 1.5km from the where the hotel is located, though the closest body of water would actually be the moat of the Imperial Palace 750m away. While the hotel itself is fictional, the actual building is the real life Ginza Wako Department store.

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Gina Szanboti wrote:

Who says the river is far away? There are lots of rivers running through Tokyo (they're in Tokyo, right?) and parks, so the fact that it looks like a forest with wild animals doesn't tell us much, if you've seen a few episodes of Life After People. Smile But the question of their water usage vs the needs of DoorBot still remains. I noticed they seemed to have reduced the latter to a spritz doing the trick, rather than a dousing.


Perhaps "distant" was too strong of a word, but I did get the impression that it seemed to be about a 30-60 minute round trip. Not too far, but not conveniently close by either.
Besides the Doorbot, they seem to use water as you'd expect, cooking, cleaning, watering the plants etc. That large maintenance robot seemed to be power washing the building which would use a ton of water...

Life After People was a great show, good call out. Thinking about that show, considering the plant growth (and now that I think of it, earthquakes), the surrounding buildings probably wouldn't be standing at this point lol

TarsTarkas wrote:

The news stories shown seem to imply that the toxin was able to even penetrate their environment suits. Which seemingly was the last straw. So Underground Bunkers and Environmental Domes would have eventually failed.


That's true, though we don't know what happened to him. It could have been a failure of the suit. Though there's also a big difference between a wearable plastic (or similar) suit and a thick glass dome or solid rock. Presuming the news clips are all happening in chronological order, they began the space and underwater plans long before people were wearing full body suits. Not saying you're thinking is wrong, just that they leapt to the extreme of space and deep underwater, which are probably the hardest/costliest options. Of course, we only have barely a few minutes to go on. I'd like to see more so we can learn more, but I'm guessing the show won't be focusing on that much, if at all.

TarsTarkas wrote:

If the toxin was biological in nature, it probably will still be around, just waiting for someone to dig a hole or clear land. So unless a cure has been found, the Earth is a lost cause. If material in nature, it might degrade after time. Another option it might have been a form of nano machine.


I believe they said that it seemed to be coming from plants that had mutated. I was curious about what kind of plants those were after the first episode, and they are a kind that reproduce through spores. So I guess they mutated to give off an excessive amount of toxic spores. So unless those plants have died off, then they are still probably giving off toxic spores.
I wonder if any visiting aliens will make note of that...
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I liked the opening song. I can't quite pinpoint it but it somehow feels like one of those outlier anime themes from the late 1990s/early 2000s that had indie musicians write and sing the songs instead of the usual corporate J-pop acts or voice actors from the show itself. Another plus for me was that, compared to many other modern anime theme songs, I didn't hear any obvious signs of Autotune, which may have still have been used in a subtle way for all I know but, if they did use it at all, it was not nearly enough to make the singer's voice sound robotic (even if the protagonist is a robot).

meiam wrote:
The ed seems to heavily feature some sort of tanuki family, but that might just be a mascot character for the hotel.


I strongly suspect that spoiler[whatever it is that is contained in the vial that the alien left with Yachiyo will lead to the creation or mutation of the tanuki family considering that there was something floating above the substance in the vial that looks like the same leaf that the tanukis have on their heads in the ED.]

Covnam wrote:
So I guess they mutated to give off an excessive amount of toxic spores. So unless those plants have died off, then they are still probably giving off toxic spores.
I wonder if any visiting aliens will make note of that...


I have a suspicion that spoiler[the alien might be part of a clean-up team from a plant-like alien species that accidentally left the toxic spores on Earth on a previous visit. And, yes, if that's the case then I am presuming it was an accident because the alien didn't seem malicious].
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:52 am Reply with quote
Speaking of the OP, how about that really well animated dance? I don't think I have seen a non-CG dance animation that good in a TV anime, aside from idol shows.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:27 am Reply with quote
Tenchi wrote:

I strongly suspect that spoiler[whatever it is that is contained in the vial that the alien left with Yachiyo will lead to the creation or mutation of the tanuki family considering that there was something floating above the substance in the vial that looks like the same leaf that the tanukis have on their heads in the ED.]


Oh good catch, although it would be awkward to have character that would be a few days old, or I guess they can just time skip in the futur easily in this case. Maybe they'll grow up in the hotel and the ending will have them receive a massive bill. Laughing
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While I'm not at all discounting the possibility that the vial will be connected to the tanuki, it doesn't necessarily need to be. Tanuki are storied shape-shifters, and the leaf on the head is their go-to mechanism. They can also use leaves to fake objects, a la substitution no jutsu.
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Another thought, perhaps those projects (deep space and deep ocean) were already underway before this started (based on their tech level), so that could also be why the opted for that instead of more grounded options. The deep space ship was already done, now they just mass produced it.
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