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residentgrigo
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I lived through the 90s arm of the Saban empire and Beetleborgs was so bad that even kids knew. Power Rangers and Masked Rider make sense but the 80s coke must have run dry when they reached Beetleborgs.
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Custom Apex
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This is where I remembered the company the most during my childhood with Power Rangers, Spider-Man: TAS and the pre-FUNimation DBZ English dub. Some of the shows like Technoman (Tekkaman Blade), Mystic Knights, VR Troopers and Beetleborgs from this era I don't remember at all since they flew under my radar as a kid but I distinctly remembered Masked Rider but never watched the show but only for that crossover with MMPR. I didn't get into Kamen Rider until Dragon Knight in the 11th grade.
As for the other shows, I recently checked out their dub on the first three Digimon shows on Hulu and enjoyed them regardless of how edited they were, mostly the original Adventure and Tamers, didn't like 02 all that much. I really wanted to check out The Vision of Escaflowne but I just never did especially the whole isekai genre wasn't in full swing back then during the 1990s and early 2000s. I have to say that I missed out of some of the shows during Fox Kids' final years of existence such as Mon Colle Knights, DinoZaurs and Transformers: RID (2000) due to the fact I was watching shows on Kids WB and Toonami at the time. |
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NJ_
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Yeah, I tried to get into it a second time through the Shout DVDs to see if it held up better than the first time I watched on Fox Kids back then and nope, it didn't so I didn't buy more past the first set. Ironically, I had similar issues with Justin in Power Rangers Turbo but watching that a second time through those DVDs, he held up better as a character than the rest of the cast before they left the show. |
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FireChick
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Wait, Tifanie Christun was Haim Saban's stepdaughter?!
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tinyirnfist0
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That's correct. |
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PurpleWarrior13
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Had no idea Saban was involved in the effort to bring Slayers over to Fox Kids. Jason DeMarco from Toonami confirmed that Fox Kids had picked it up, along with Escaflowne and Magic Knight Rayearth, specifically to keep them away from Toonami, who was interested in acquiring them. I know Lisa Ortiz confirmed she re-recorded the Dragon Slave chant to remove references to blood, and there are ancient articles here where Enoki Films talks about the Fox Kids deal (including confirming the same dub would be used, with some changes), but that's it.
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Kicksville
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I specifically remember ceasing to watch Escaflowne (and for that matter, Cardcaptors) out of confusion: with the weird editing and excessive flashbacks, I kept thinking I somehow missed an episode or two.
Being spoiled by Toonami at that point, I figured I'd just wait until they reaired it again, which was how it worked over there...but, uhhh, obviously I assumed too much. Truly exasperating how adults trusted children's intellect so little, then went and somehow made the shows actually impossible to follow. |
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mdo7
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So Saban was the one that prevented Slayers, Magic Knight Rayearth, and Escaflowne from being on Toonami (when all those 3 could've benefitted the most from Toonami exposure). My goodness, that would explain why Escaflowne was broadcasted on Fox Kids, and that explain why Magic Knight Rayearth, and Slayers were originally going to be part of Toonami line-up before it never got broadcasted, I mean we know about Slayers almost got broadcasted on Fox Kids before it went to International Channel in 2002 where it had less exposure compared to Fox Kids and Toonami. Magic Knight Rayearth had never seen a day of light on Fox Kids, nor did they gave it to Toonami. So this is a surprising revelation to me. |
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mgree0032
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I am just wondering how would a Saban dub of Slayers would have worked out if the series was actually on Fox Kids. I saw the lost dub opening of the rayearth ocean dub and the theme song wasn’t as bad a people said it was.
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PurpleWarrior13
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I’m surprised Power Rangers really was non-union, especially since Saban’s anime dubs usually WERE union, unlike 4Kids. Even Eagle Riders was a SAG production. Also the Power Rangers movies were SAG, going by the database.
I think that was just a pilot put together in the mid-90s by TMS to sell the series to potential US distributors. If Fox Kids had shown Rayearth, it would’ve likely been an edited version of the Bang Zoom dub. As for Slayers, it’s hard to say. It’s a very engaging and often funny fantasy series that I could see kids back then enjoying. It doesn’t even seem to matter that it had a female protagonist. The animation would’ve probably appeared a bit dated even in 2000, but not too much. It’s not very marketable from a merchandise standpoint, FWIW. It would’ve been a better fit on Toonami for sure, especially with their more relaxed censorship standards. Anything with Naga wouldn’t been a no-go on both though. |
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NJ_
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They did something similar with Devilman Lady but the only thing online is a trailer which has a little bit of Mega Man cartoon music on it. |
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