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Multi-Facets
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:33 pm
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I loved seeing the old-school among the new, especially the "Saint Seiya" and "Yu-Gi-Oh!" figures. And the "Uma Musume" girls were pretty cute too.
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Minos_Kurumada
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:41 pm
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The fact that Saint Seiya characters still look cool 40 years later never ceases to amuse me.
That marvelous 80s hair never goes out of style.
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Fluwm
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:00 pm
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Tamashii Nation stuff is so overpriced...
Normally I'd be jumping in here to comment on all their robots, or whine about the exclusives, or lament the various figures they've shown off at various toy shows only to never produces (Alas, Rig Shokew, how I weep for thee)... but honestly I just saw Usagi in the thumbnail and want to comment on that.
I started watching Sailor Moon this month and it is a really, really fun show. Very different to what I expected -- considerably less gay, but much funnier than its reputation. If anyone else has it on their great big list of classic anime they maybe want to try someday, I urge you to make the jump -- for whatever weaknesses the show as, Usagi is a fantastic protagonist.
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Minos_Kurumada
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:03 pm
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Fluwm wrote: | Tamashii Nation stuff is so overpriced...
Normally I'd be jumping in here to comment on all their robots, or whine about the exclusives, or lament the various figures they've shown off at various toy shows only to never produces (Alas, Rig Shokew, how I weep for thee)... but honestly I just saw Usagi in the thumbnail and want to comment on that.
I started watching Sailor Moon this month and it is a really, really fun show. Very different to what I expected -- considerably less gay, but much funnier than its reputation. If anyone else has it on their great big list of classic anime they maybe want to try someday, I urge you to make the jump -- for whatever weaknesses the show as, Usagi is a fantastic protagonist. |
Well, if you mean the old show, yeah, it's not gay at all.
The thing is that the old show it's just based on the manga, it's actually like Saint Seiya: the anime follows the same crucial moments and basic plot but the anime has more stuff to develop the characters and overall experience.
In the manga, Usagi always comments on how beautiful the other girls are, specially Rei, while blushing and the like.
I prefer the anime anyways, the girls have way stronger personalities on it.
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Fluwm
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:01 pm
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Yeah, I'm watching the 90s show. Just finished the first season (definitely wasn't expecting THAT in the last episode) and also picked up the first volume of the manga on Kindle, which I think is an omnibus. I've only read the first couple of chapters so far, though.
Before getting to it, I basically only knew three things about Sailor Moon:
1. It was popular in the 90s and kind of important to the growth of early online fanfiction, especially queer fanfiction.
2. The infamous accidental-incest of making localizing a lesbian couple as "cousins" without adjusting or attempting to remove or reduce the romantic subtext I. The English dub.
3. So many panty shots.
So I was kind of surprised to find not just Sailor Moon, but all of the Scouts (well, maybe not Ami) going boy-crazy and fantasizing about very nearly every single man they encounter.
And also that the infamous panty shots really weren't a thing, at all, in the first dozen episodes or so, and only really started happening (infrequently) with Rei's introduction, and not really becoming common until nearly 30 episodes on. After which, yeah, they're everywhere.
Minos_Kurumada wrote: | The thing is that the old show it's just based on the manga, it's actually like Saint Seiya: the anime follows the same crucial moments and basic plot but the anime has more stuff to develop the characters and overall experience. |
Yeah, that's the sense I get, just from reading the first couple of chapters of the manga. I think I'd probably classify it more as a reimagining than an adaptation -- I think it takes the anime 8 episodes to catch up to the manga's 2nd chapter.
And I suspect I may not really enjoy the manga very much (or the second anime adaptation, which I'm told follows the manga much more closely). I think the plot is definitely the most I the resting part of the show -- I'm most.y just here for the characterization and humor. All the demons and whatnot are just an excuse to get Usagi and friends involved in various contrived situations for comedic affect, like the silly "Princess lessons" episode.
Quote: | In the manga, Usagi always comments on how beautiful the other girls are, specially Rei, while blushing and the like.
I prefer the anime anyways, the girls have way stronger personalities on it. |
In general I do not ship, but if I had to...Usagi x Rei, all the way. It's kind of sad how none of the male love interests have much personality... Mamoru has the most, but it's basically just "giant, useless dork who the girls think is very cool," with the delightful subtext that of course they think he's cool: they're 14. Meanwhile, Mamoru is... what, I'm gonna say...37?
I am hopeful that future seasons continue to focus more on the characters. At least in the first season Mako is really left out in the cold, and Minako may get a bit more screen time, but not much.
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