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INTEREST: Platinum Games Co-Founder Hideki Kamiya Can't Work in Game Industry for 1 Year


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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:49 am Reply with quote
I'm guessing he quit because he wasn't into all the management duties, he does mention not liking having to attend meetings. I think i heard somewhere that in Japan promotion is not something you can turn down, so leaving was the only way to get a job lower down at a company.

It would be great to see him play some of his games and with commentary, though that sounds unlikely.
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Harleyquin



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:26 am Reply with quote
First time I've heard senior management at game production companies include "gardening leave" as part of their standard contract clauses. Even banks aren't as strict with their equivalents. Maybe because he's so high-profile that he was given special treatment? And he signed it anyway?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:42 am Reply with quote
I hope things turn out well for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:54 am Reply with quote
MarshalBanana wrote:
I'm guessing he quit because he wasn't into all the management duties, he does mention not liking having to attend meetings. I think i heard somewhere that in Japan promotion is not something you can turn down, so leaving was the only way to get a job lower down at a company.

It sounds like he could be suffering from burnout and probably stress judging from that. So maybe he's prioritizing his mental health, I think.
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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:12 am Reply with quote
Harleyquin wrote:
First time I've heard senior management at game production companies include "gardening leave" as part of their standard contract clauses. Even banks aren't as strict with their equivalents. Maybe because he's so high-profile that he was given special treatment? And he signed it anyway?

Well, it is certainly not the first time - Shinji Mikami also had the same non-compete clause after leaving Tango Gameworks.
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Cimarosa



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:36 am Reply with quote
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in his classic red Ferrari car.

You can't be serious?
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gsilver



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:41 pm Reply with quote
Non-competes are immoral and horrible.

Companies have the ability to fire you at any time, and when they do, they also have the right to keep you from working elsewhere?


//Lost my job in 2020 in a layoff from a company that two weeks earlier said that there would be no layoffs. About a year earlier, they said that they'd be releasing everyone except upper management from non-competes. Guess what was right in the severance agreement? A new copy of the non-compete.

The thing said stuff like me having to inform them of every job and every address for *three years* after they ousted me.

In any kind of rational society, one should be able to switch jobs at any time for any reason, including similar work from a company that simply treats people more humanely.
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Toloran



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:55 pm Reply with quote
gsilver wrote:
Companies have the ability to fire you at any time, and when they do, they also have the right to keep you from working elsewhere?

If you're in the US, they're actually banned or restricted in a number of states. The FTC is currently in the middle of discussing banning them at the federal level (with a few narrow exceptions).

Also: Even without that, they were basically unenforceable for lower-level employees. They have to establish damages against you, so it'd cost them more to sue you than they would get out of it.
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MrPuzzles



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:44 pm Reply with quote
Soo....

He got blocked.
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ranran-001



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:34 pm Reply with quote
If he wanted to work in a ramen stall, I don't think anything is stopping him from taking that job. No-Compete clauses don't stop people from working at all, it usually prevents them for a period of time from working directly with a rival company in the same role they had previously.
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omiya



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:41 pm Reply with quote
At least he can appear in public.

In the case of the Kalafina dissolution and two of its members leaving Spacecraft management, at least one of them, Keiko Kubota was incognito (no public posts or appearances) for a year. There are ANN articles on Keiko Kubota to demonstrate this.

This may have not been legally enforceable, but the power inbalance between a management company and one of its clients could have been enough to ensure silence.

It would be good as part of the clean up of artist management in Japan that such controlling behaviour was outlawed with help available for artists feeling trapped and powerless.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:07 am Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:31 am Reply with quote
I see a Mazinger Z figure, respect.
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DevilBrew



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:49 am Reply with quote
" In his classic red Ferrari car".

Yo the writer throwing shade at the end was so hilarious for some reason.
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SrkSano



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:44 pm Reply with quote
Kamiya never wanted Dante and Bayonetta in the same video game unless he supervised it so take the opportunity Nintendo and shove Devil May Cry into Smash, and no not the DMC 1 version that doesn't use Rebellion that no one cares about. Anime, 3, 4 and 5 version that all use Rebellion. Dante's inclusion into the franchise can't just be in that Mii outfit OF DMC 1 DANTE THAT DOESN'T USE REBELLION GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol! Dante and Bayonetta are both in Puzzle & Dragons and that SMT smartphone game so it has happened. Kamiya did not allow Bayonettta to be in Project x Zone 2, but after seeing what they did he said he would be alright with Bayonetta showing up in a potential Project x Zone 3.

Hoping the characters will meet in a console game for real someday. With Dante using Rebellion of course. Alastor Sword sucks, the Dante Sword sucks, Rebellion all the way! ROFL!
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