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ErikaD.D
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 2:47 pm
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Quote: | Yor's storyline doesn't end as strongly as it started |
Does the author have issues with Yor more than with Loid and Anya? Because Yor gets less screen time and she's being sidelined more than Loid and Anya, thus Yor is yet another Sakura.
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TheSleepyMonkey
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 3:08 pm
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ErikaD.D wrote: |
Quote: | Yor's storyline doesn't end as strongly as it started |
Does the author have issues with Yor more than with Loid and Anya? Because Yor gets less screen time and she's being sidelined more than Loid and Anya, thus Yor is yet another Sakura. |
Yor's not even a fraction as annoying as Sakura is, so I doubt that claim.
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Princess_Irene
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 3:15 pm
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I think it's less that he doesn't like her and more that it's harder to work "secret assassin skills" into everyday life in the mid-20th century. But I'd say Endo has a soft spot for lady assassins in general; his series Tista is about one, after all.
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macattack
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 12:42 pm
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Princess_Irene wrote: | I think it's less that he doesn't like her and more that it's harder to work "secret assassin skills" into everyday life in the mid-20th century. But I'd say Endo has a soft spot for lady assassins in general; his series Tista is about one, after all. |
SXF also has a gentler, more light-hearted tone and has a substantial younger/family-skewing audience. It's tremendously difficult to make Yor's line of work acceptable for younger readers and an audience who may be averse to bloody violence. The most violent parts of SXF have all involved Yor, and I think that's why he glosses over her work in comparison to Loid's. Loid doesn't always need to kill to succeed in his missions, being a spy involves a lot more than Bond-style theatrics, so that's easier to translate to the lighter story Endo is telling.
Yor is a victim of tone and of the audience Endo has courted. She has shown enough depth and personality, along with character development, that I definitely don't think her comparative lack of screentime is because Endo dislikes her. It's just harder to delve deeper without alienating the audience or undermining the tone.
P.S. the anime does make an attempt to remedy the issue by strongly implying that Yor semi-frequently assassinates targets offscreen. It’s not a perfect fix but it does slightly give her more presence and relevance.
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Cho_Desu
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:54 pm
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To me it always felt like it would have been ten times more feasible to mesh everything together tonally by simply having Yor be a spy for a separate organization from Loid -- that way you could have plenty of action hijinks for both characters without the requirement of mass murder.
But then again, maybe the vast majority of readers won't ever be bothered by it in the slightest? In which case I guess the manga-ka knows what he's doing. (I *have* noticed an uptick in assassin-themed stories in recent years, many of them lighter in tone.)
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kgw
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 4:27 am
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But the starting idea was that Yor, Loid and Anya had different backgrounds, in order to make the story more compelling and, to some extent, "believeable". If Yor and Loid were both spies/assassins they would have noticed their partner's antics.*
We have seen Loid catching Yuri's act within minutes and Yor is fairly quick in reacting to death-or-live situations (even if some of them are just in her head).
Asides from what I said earlier: those characters can't have a previous background of what a real relation/family life is: you can't think your partner/parent/child acts weird if you have never had a real/positive one to compare.
* not to talk it would be quite similar to the "Mr. & Mrs. Smith" movie
EDIT: what I have seen, at least in Shueisha comics is a new wave of married/family/unconventional assassin/spies action comedies: Sakamoto Days, Mission Yozakura Family, Kiruru KILL me, Kill Blue, Kindergarten WARS, etc.
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