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Hellsoldier
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In wonder if there's renewed interest in the anime because Hideo Kojima referenced it.
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RockSplash
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Absolutely. The original tweet(announcing it a week ago) said it was "Hideo Kojima approved". |
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Keen Fox
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Exactly what I thought too! Haha |
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Beatdigga
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Right on the heels of Cyberpunk as well. It adds up to renewed interest. |
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FireChick
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It also helps that Discotek released a shiny new steelbook edition BR for it, with remastering supervised by Yoshiaki Kawajiri himself. |
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mdo7
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Hopefully, this could lead to more younger Gen Z anime fans that don't appreciate older anime to start taking them more seriously. I mean if there are Gen Z anime fans watching Cyberpunk: Edgerunner on Netflix, and they saw Kojima's endorsement along with mentioning Cyber City Oedo 808 on there, it could lead to a jump on viewerships for that particular title.
Would love it if somebody can name-drop Bubblegum Crisis, & Megazone 23 (would be nice if Fin Wolfhard of Stranger Thing can namedrop & recommend them if he ever talked about Cyberpunk: Edgrunner given that's he himself a big anime fan) into the mix so that can help those 2 classic anime get viewership amongst younger views. I mean when it comes to older classic anime and younger viewer (teen & people in their 20's), they're almost very rare & very hard to find (although you have to factor in there are probably younger anime fans that do watch older anime but don't have ANN, MAL, or Reddit account to verify themselves, so maybe that particular demographic could be much bigger). |
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penguintruth
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It's really junky/trashy, but a fun kind of trashy.
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MFrontier
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Another anime classic!
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MarshalBanana
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There two things that you have to keep in mind. One is that as we move further into the future, there will be more and more older Anime, I wouldn't be surprised if someone in their late teens considers titles like Gurren Lagann and Death Note classics. Two, a lot of them are a hard sell outside of their core audience. I mean no offence to the people who enjoy these titles, but they are pulp material that's enjoyed more as trashy fun, even down to the juvenile dub where they fit in as many swear words as possible. |
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mdo7
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Not sure if I agree with your assessment Marshal. Some movies like the one you listed will always be the classic even to younger viewers. I mean there are plenty of young people in their 20's/Gen Z demographics that do watch The Godfather. I mean even Scarface (the 1983 version with Al Pacino) is still beloved by young people even to this day because of the gangster theme (it's influence on rap music today), and the pop culture relevance still endure (it doesn't help that Tony Montana is probably meme a lot in the age of Instagram, & TikTok too). Oh, about video game, yeah that's a different beast you're talking about, not a good idea to compare anime to that. There's been a resurgence in retro videogaming for the last few years thanks to well let say indie gaming that used retro-styled graphic and gameplay (ie: Shovel Knight, Bloodstained series), and revival of classic retro game franchises like Street of Rage 4. So yes, it's possible someone who played Final Fantasy 7 remake could end up playing the original version (which is available on all modern current-gen consoles). Franchises like Super Mario, Pokemon are still popular even to this day and god knows how many young kid may have played the NES Super Mario game on Switch Online service. This gen has saw a lot of re-releases of retro games from the 8-bit and 16-bit era, so we don't know how many young Gen Z ( & Gen Alpha) demographic could be playing retro games (I mean you're going to have parents that grew up in those 8-bit and 16-bit era gaming that are going to introduce those old games to their kids). So it's not a good idea comparing younger people playing retro game to young people watching old/retro anime given that this is apples & oranges.
Regarding the bold & underline part, I expect memorable classics like Dragonball, Naruto, & One Piece to lived on for many years. I expect Evangelion, Gundam franchise, Cowboy Bebop, Akira to be still engrained in every anime fans list of anime to watch. Do I expect Inuyasha, Ranma, Fist of the North Star to get that same love in the future? Well, not that much, I would expect maybe some open-minded younger Gen-Z anime fans to maybe check those out (I know there are Gen-Z anime fans that may have a fascination with older animation). As I said, Gen-Z/younger anime fans need influence from celebrities their age to get them to watch anime. As I said, if Stranger Thing's Fin Wolfhard name-drop Armored Trooper VOTOMs, & Mobile Suit Gundam in a podcast or interview and any young Gen-Z anime fans that are also Stranger Things fans listen to Fin name-dropping 80's anime recommendation, then that could lead to I don't know 50-60 maybe 100 young anime fans watching those anime titles I mentioned because Fin name-dropped them. The key is celebrities/influencers name-dropping/citing 80's (or older) anime titles and the demographic of younger anime fans that are also fans of these celebrities'/influencers. So Hideo Kojima name dropping Cyber City Oedo 808 is a good thing. But Kojima's name is just limited to demographic of anime fans that played Metal Gear Solid, or any Kojima's games. That's why I would love it if Fin Wolfhard, or even members of BTS to name-drop Cyber City Oedo 808 (or any retro/old-school anime from the 80's) to get more audiences watch that anime. |
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SHD
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I really love this show so I hope it's getting some attention now, it absolutely deserves it. I always thought it was a pity that it ended up with as few episodes as it had. I would've loved to see more episodes (god forbid a series), or at least a novel adaptation or something... That said, I really really hope this is not going to be the newest nostalgia-bait reboot victim.
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MarshalBanana
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At this point in time, the pool of what can be considered older Anime is expanding to the point where for younger people looking back, there's an overwhelming amount of old Anime to choice from, 60s-00s. So even if you can get Gen-Z into older Anime, the odds of them watching certain titles from one specific time frame is pretty low. This isn't to say that none of them will get into them, but I can only see a very small amount. You are right that at this point in time, there are a lot of Gen-X working in the industry who are influenced by that era of Anime and will promote it. Whether or not they take to them, well that's another matter. And even they will slowly get replaced by Millennials who are more likely to promote Anime from their generation, Trigun, Outlaw Star, Tenchi Muyo!, Medabots, Digimon(they were the shows that were on TV when I started watching Anime). |
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mdo7
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Regarding the part I bolded & underlined. It depends on the titles, like for example anything done by Yoshiaki Kawajiri will probably get a Gen-Z's anime fans attention because of the beautiful artwork and character design, no young anime fan I've met would be turned off by it (Ok, there maybe some that would be turned off due to preferences & bias). But my point is that there's going to be a young anime fan that is going to be attracted by older work because of the artwork and character design look unique from other "current/modern" anime today. But I expect there will be some younger anime fans getting curious about past anime. That's why a celebrities/influencers that are fans of retro/old-school anime are important, they hold celebrity status and can influence younger anime fans to watch that older anime based on that celebrities/influencers' recommendation. I mean look at how Strangers Thing was able to get an an almost forgotten obscure 80's song to go viral, and went # on Billboard 100 chart. If Stranger Things was able to do that, imagine a celebrities/influencers can do the same by name-dropping or recommending any older 80's/90's anime. Also Marshal, were you aware there's been a rise in popularity of Adult animation? I'm pointing this out because we don't know how many of the people in this demographic may want to search for more adult animation (people that have never watched anime), it could be a good opportunity for people to discover anime aimed at adults, and a lot of our old school/retro anime OVAs could end up finding new life in those type of audience demographic. Imagine someone watching The Legend of Vox Machina on Prime Video, or Inside Job from Netflix and has never watched Japanese anime before, and this person wanted to search for more adult animation that comes close to these 2. This is where people that are anime fans (both fans of old school, and someone who is a retro anime enthusiasts) could end up recommending that person some old school ultra-violent/ultra-gory anime OVAs like not only Cyber City Oedo 808, but also something like Genocyber, MD Geist, Silent Mobius OVA, Wicked City, Demon City Shinjuku, & etc.... And there you go, those older anime OVA (the ultra-violent/ultra gory one) will find new audiences from those that want to watch more adult animation thanks to the recent popularity. It doesn't help that you got article like this one from CBR and video that talked about it like this one for example that will help gain attention from younger fans. Those will always find a way into younger anime demographic circles, and there will always be some or more younger anime fans that are going to get curious about those ultra-violent/ultra-gory anime OVAs. I don't know if Cyber City Oedo 808, and other anime OVAs from the older era will find new audiences with younger demographic, but now with social media, & the rising popularity of adult animation in the US, I think it's possible those old school/retro ultra-violent/gory anime OVAs could find new life today and probably in the near future. |
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MarshalBanana
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Yes the more broadly watched titles from that era will be consumed; Akira, Wings of Honneamise, Ninja Scrolls. But I can't see anyone beyond an extreme niche deep diving into titles like Spirit Warrior, Angel Cop, AD Police. When there is likely retro Anime from the rest of the 90s. the early 80s, 00s and maybe even 60s and 70s that are more likely to not only be recommanded to them, but might even be more to their liking.
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mdo7
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Uh Marshal,
I'm not sure if you bothered to read my private message I sent to you, please check back on that, and in case if you're not going to read it, this is what you missed:
Again, we don't know how many people watching adult animation may crossover to anime. I mean it's possible for someone who could watch Legend of Vox Machina could end up watching Record of Lodoss War OVA. How are you so sure there are 2 different audiences when it comes to adult animation and mature/adult Japanese animation? How are you so sure that one audience demographic will not crossover to anime assuming that person never watch anime or not aware of violent/gory anime OVAs from the 80's/90's? Maybe it doesn't sound crazy for someone who watch adult animation on Netflix or Prime Video could end up watching M.D Geist, Genocyber, & Violence Jack because somebody on a Reddit recommended more adult animation and let say 5-15 anime fans on that reddit topic recommended anime OVAs like the one I just mentioned to those fans that are hungry for more adult animation. That's how you have people that watch adult animation on Netflix & Prime Video could end up crossing over to anime (& probably older anime including the OVAs from the 80's/90's). Marshal, I would recommend you start watching adult animation like Legend of Vox Machina, and Inside Job on Prime Video and Netflix so you can get a better assessment and you'll understand why a crossover/branching out could happen between adult animation fans and anime fandom. Who knows maybe you can to be able to convert some of those fans to become new anime fans. I mean how do you know you could get somebody who watch Blood of Zeus to end up watching Vampire Hunter D? As I said, I think we could see crossover/branching out of adult animation fans becoming anime fans if they find anime that looks a lot similar to the one that they watch. It's not crazy for a fan of Legend of Vox Machina to end up watching Record of Lodoss War OVA. I mean the more we have adult animation being made in the US, the higher chance that audiences watching these could crossover to anime, that include the ultra-violent/ultra-gory anime OVAs from the 80's/90's. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody who watch Love, Death & Robots on Netflix ended up watching Gall Force, I mean anything's possible in the age of internet, streaming, and social media. I mean as I said, those anime OVAs from the 80's/90's, they could find new life in today's adult animation popularity. So I don't ruled out anybody that watch adult animation on Netflix, Prime Video, HBO Max, etc... could end up watching those old anime OVAs from the 80's and 90's. Yoshiaki Kawajiri's animation will attract fans of those that never watch anime before. |
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