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INTEREST: Japan Cartoonists' Association Launches Online Charity Auction To Support Ukraine


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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:58 am Reply with quote
There’ll be peace when the Russian invaders are driven out by force.
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:06 pm Reply with quote
Laudable effort, especially by Tetsuya Chiba (who proposed it).

penguintruth wrote:
There’ll be peace when the Russian invaders are driven out by force.

Doesn't necessarily need to be 'by force'.
Though, if the Russians are too stubborn to leave peacefully when asked, well, what can you do, at least then they can't complain when they're thrown out...
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Gem-Bug



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:17 pm Reply with quote
Blanchimont wrote:


penguintruth wrote:
There’ll be peace when the Russian invaders are driven out by force.

Doesn't necessarily need to be 'by force'.


You are aware that they've been like executing whole Ukrainian villages/cities, yeah? Confused
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:30 pm Reply with quote
Gem-Bug wrote:
You are aware that they've been like executing whole Ukrainian villages/cities, yeah? Confused

Yeah, I am well aware. And I hope the criminals responsible, starting from the top with Putin, will yet be made to answer for all those crimes.

But that has nothing to do with kicking Russians out Ukraine, either by their own volition, or dragged out kicking and screaming. AS long as they'll be out, I'm fine either way.
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blooperboy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 3:52 pm Reply with quote
Here is a link to see the shikishi.

So far the top three are one of Riko and Maa for 1.755 million yen, an Eyeshield 21 piece for 1.053 million yen, and a colab piece with Nanachi and Makunouchi Ippo for 1.002 million yen.
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Triltaison



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:35 pm Reply with quote
That Justy piece is absolutely gorgeous. I love the Soldier Blue one as well.
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AsleepBySunset



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:11 pm Reply with quote
To be honest... I kind of find it hard to take the rhetoric around the war seriously, espicially bullshit like the tokyopop 'charity'. I think israel is an evil, evil, country which is actively engaged in a colonialist genocide, but that doesn't mean I would support america blowing israel up, or fund a charity supporting america blowing israel up. You can't fix problems with guns and bombs. In the same way, it's hard to really pick between the fascist ukrainian militias who massacre their own people and the russian war machine. Yet their seems to be a large demographic of people who want a woke war to support, and who think so long as you can say "self defence" that excuses the fascist militias that some of the funds they've been raising have probably been supporting.

Apparantly in 2015~ the american military trained the ukrainian fascist militia and have also been backing them for some time, it looks like america created this whole problem to begin with.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/26/muzy-m26.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/01/ukra-a01.html

Seems chibuya is supporting doctors without borders, which seems somewhat noble, unlike the bullshit tokyopop thing
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The_Outsider



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:08 am Reply with quote
AsleepBySunset wrote:
To be honest... I kind of find it hard to take the rhetoric around the war seriously, espicially bullshit like the tokyopop 'charity'. I think israel is an evil, evil, country which is actively engaged in a colonialist genocide, but that doesn't mean I would support america blowing israel up, or fund a charity supporting america blowing israel up. You can't fix problems with guns and bombs. In the same way, it's hard to really pick between the fascist ukrainian militias who massacre their own people and the russian war machine. Yet their seems to be a large demographic of people who want a woke war to support, and who think so long as you can say "self defence" that excuses the fascist militias that some of the funds they've been raising have probably been supporting.

Apparantly in 2015~ the american military trained the ukrainian fascist militia and have also been backing them for some time, it looks like america created this whole problem to begin with.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/26/muzy-m26.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/01/ukra-a01.html

Seems chibuya is supporting doctors without borders, which seems somewhat noble, unlike the bullshit tokyopop thing


Lmao, nice try vatnik, could use a less obvious tankie source btw.

Also, killing orcs will always be a worthy cause to donate to, makes the world a better place.
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AsleepBySunset



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:31 am Reply with quote
The_Outsider wrote:
AsleepBySunset wrote:
To be honest... I kind of find it hard to take the rhetoric around the war seriously, espicially bullshit like the tokyopop 'charity'. I think israel is an evil, evil, country which is actively engaged in a colonialist genocide, but that doesn't mean I would support america blowing israel up, or fund a charity supporting america blowing israel up. You can't fix problems with guns and bombs. In the same way, it's hard to really pick between the fascist ukrainian militias who massacre their own people and the russian war machine. Yet their seems to be a large demographic of people who want a woke war to support, and who think so long as you can say "self defence" that excuses the fascist militias that some of the funds they've been raising have probably been supporting.

Apparantly in 2015~ the american military trained the ukrainian fascist militia and have also been backing them for some time, it looks like america created this whole problem to begin with.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/26/muzy-m26.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/01/ukra-a01.html

Seems chibuya is supporting doctors without borders, which seems somewhat noble, unlike the bullshit tokyopop thing


Lmao, nice try vatnik, could use a less obvious tankie source btw.

Also, killing orcs will always be a worthy cause to donate to, makes the world a better place.


If you're referring to russians as "orcs", thats obviously genocidal language.
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The_Outsider



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:51 am Reply with quote
"Genocidal", genuinely laughable coming from the country exterminating ukrainians and its own ethnic minorities through the war, but ok.
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AsleepBySunset



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:18 am Reply with quote
The_Outsider wrote:
"Genocidal", genuinely laughable coming from the country exterminating ukrainians and its own ethnic minorities through the war, but ok.


So you really support genocide so long as it's a "self defence genocide" I guess. I'm sure you love the self defence genocides from israel, china, or any other country engaged in genocide.
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The_Outsider



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:59 am Reply with quote
AsleepBySunset wrote:
So you really support genocide so long as it's a "self defence genocide" I guess. I'm sure you love the self defence genocides from israel, china, or any other country engaged in genocide.


Nice strawman vatnik, a 5-year old might have fallen for that one.

Imagine claiming the marauding horde of murdering, raping, pillaging alcoholics is the one getting "gEnOcIdEd"(the copium to justify them sucking at waging modern war, I swear to god), just go home then, no one forced you to invade another sovereign nation to topple a democratically elected regime just because it didn't want to march to the tune of your bigoted, white supremacist, corrupt gas station with a defense budget.
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AsleepBySunset



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:18 am Reply with quote
The_Outsider wrote:
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Imagine claiming the marauding horde of murdering, raping, pillaging alcoholics is the one getting "gEnOcIdEd"(the copium to justify them sucking at waging modern war, I swear to god), just go home then, no one forced you to invade another sovereign nation to topple a democratically elected regime just because it didn't want to march to the tune of your bigoted, white supremacist, corrupt gas station with a defense budget.


What the bloody heck are you talking about? Why are you so pro-war, why are you so pro-genocide? You clearly stated that russians are orcs, and any reason to kill a russian ('orc') is good enough. That's clear genocidal rhetoric which sounds like it was spat out by hitler, just replace orc with goblin. I want to make it clear that I neither support the ukranian fascist militias or the russian war machine, as I already stated, when the russians aren't killing ukranians the fascist militias do it for them.

You're sitting hear calling the russian military a murdering horde? Do you think the ukranian military and fascist militias aren't also a murdering horde? They literally burnt down a building while women and children were trapped inside. That's who you bloody support.
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:43 am Reply with quote
Ignore the troll, he's already reported.

The article didn't mention it, but there's about 150 international doctors active for Doctors Without Borders, in addition to about 500 Ukrainian staff of theirs, in Ukraine. (source: Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières Ukraine page).
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-Matthew-



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:33 am Reply with quote
My comment wan't approved, it seems.

I also don't like this situation. People die both in Russia and in Ukraine. It is horrible. I hope that this all will end soon!
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