×
  • remind me tomorrow
  • remind me next week
  • never remind me
Subscribe to the ANN Newsletter • Wake up every Sunday to a curated list of ANN's most interesting posts of the week. read more

Forum - View topic
Maid Cafés Aren't Just For Male Otaku Anymore




Note: this is the discussion thread for this article

Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Columbo





PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:10 am Reply with quote
It never was just for males.
Back to top
SenpaiDuckie
ANN Community Manager


Joined: 16 Sep 2021
Posts: 531
Location: PH
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:25 am Reply with quote
For one, I definitely enjoyed this article!

Thinking back when I was traveling in Japan, I really did notice the majority of maid cafes to be male. I didn't find it odd, but like the locals, I found it common. Furthermore, it is indeed a common notion to think that the customers that would go to a maid cafe, is a male otaku. It's just an instant click indeed, to think such a way. Reading about this now, how the game has changed for this industry, it is something that, now, I would like to visit and and experience it.

I am happy that such cafes are surviving despite of pandemic, and due to social media, it became a platform for other people to see this, and be interested on trying it out. Smile

I just hope now that the next few months, it would be easier to travel! *crosses fingers* Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NeverConvex
Subscriber



Joined: 08 Jun 2013
Posts: 2575
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:03 am Reply with quote
I've never really had much interest in maid cafes, but it's neat to hear about the cultural/clientele change they're undergoing.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Greed1914



Joined: 28 Oct 2007
Posts: 4668
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:22 am Reply with quote
Columbo wrote:
It never was just for males.


I think that is something the article says. At least from the perspective of the cafes, they didn't do anything different, but circumstances have caused a shift where the customer demographics have shifted.

Sometimes a service/product appeals strongly enough to a demographic that it gets perceived as not being "for" others, even though there was no intention to do so.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Key
Moderator


Joined: 03 Nov 2003
Posts: 18503
Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:40 am Reply with quote
The one time I got to a maid cafe in Japan (back in 2016), it was with a mixed-gender group. The female attendee got into it every bit as much as the guys did, so it doesn't surprise me at all that the cafes are drawing more female clientele. (I can also confirm that the waitress knew English well, although our tour guide did make sure to find us a place which specifically had English-proficient waitresses; apparently not all maid cafes are accommodating to foreign tourists.) It was a fun and unique experience that I highly recommend for anyone who has a chance to visit Akihabara; I still have pics somewhere of the elaborate parfaits and the Polaroid taken both with the waitress and while I was wearing some kind of animal ears. (You can purchase those as package deals with the food.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website My Anime My Manga
Moonsaber



Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 343
Location: USA
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:12 am Reply with quote
So fun! Thanks for the article.

I wonder if Japanese tourists would enjoy Medieval Times, who in another way tries to make for an immersive experience. Love those places, but I bet the Maid Cafe has better food... and far less jousting.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime My Manga
capt_bunny



Joined: 31 May 2015
Posts: 364
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:26 pm Reply with quote
Quote:
These days, I'm told, the number of female customers has surged.
I very much doubt it. Maid cafes have always had women customers. I watch countless maid Cafe videos because I like cuteness.

Next thing I am going to see is an article about how there is tons of women who are shounen jump fans or liking the "moe" art style. :roll: Excuse my sarcasm here for I never like to be disrespectful to any journalist no matter the article. However, I find this very obvious.... It makes me annoyed when I see countless articles about how women are more into the male demographic yet I see anything to the female demographic to be looked down or ignored.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NeverConvex
Subscriber



Joined: 08 Jun 2013
Posts: 2575
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:31 pm Reply with quote
I wonder if there's any way to be more quantitatively precise about it? I suppose probably the maids or owners themselves have the best subjective impressions of clientele mix. I doubt they, or regular pollsters, make or keep any kind of records on gender/sex mix of people who're customers.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
zztop



Joined: 28 Aug 2014
Posts: 650
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:02 pm Reply with quote
Not exactly maid-cafe related, but how does the butler cafe subculture fare in popularity compared to maid cafes?

I ask this because butler cafes appear to operate on a more exclusive, private capacity compared the maid cafes I'm aware of. Like the Swallowtail butler cafe in Ikebukuro which is located in a discreet basement of a building and appears to operate on a booking system (no walk-in entry) while maid cafes like Akihabara's Maidreamin' advertise prominently on main streets, have staff outside to pick up customers and seem to be walk in entry.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NeverConvex
Subscriber



Joined: 08 Jun 2013
Posts: 2575
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:39 am Reply with quote
What about the article made you think the author was complaining about male otaku? I thought it was just a mildly eye-catching headline. The article doesn't really complain about male otaku culture or anything. Some ANN folks have done that in other places, I guess, but this seems like a weird article to level that complaint at.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Cutiebunny



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
Posts: 1770
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:06 pm Reply with quote
I've missed the cafes. Didn't think I'd like them as it felt pandering (either to one specific preference or milking a particular anime/manga) but, despite the overpriced food and drink, they were fun.

...except the pancake breakfast at the Sailor Moon pop-up café in Tokyo in 2019. I still have nightmares about pancakes being paired with salad..

Not all maid cafes (or theme cafes, for that matter) have English speaking staff. A good chunk of them don't, even those that have popular themes or are in tourist-heavy locations. Google Translate can do wonders.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
P€|\||§_|\/|ast@



Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 3498
Location: IN your nightmares
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:35 pm Reply with quote
While its easy to realize the business and social landscape has evolved due to both technological changes and the pandemic, I'd also like to point out one other consideration I feel the article overlooked. Perhaps this is mostly a consequence of said technological changes, or the reliance we all have upon it these days, but what the phrase "male otaku" actually means, I believe, is also evolving. Fans for whom that label might have described in the past no longer identify with it for various reasons.

This is because both words, male and otaku refer to very specific things that don't ONLY exclude people who happen to be female or happen to be casual fans of Japanese culture. This implication is also true of the label "female otaku," not to mention the various sexual orientations that might compel one to visit a maid cafe or not.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail My Anime
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group