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MFrontier
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:42 am
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Disney really seems surprisingly gung-ho about getting into streaming Japanese productions.
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MagicPolly
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:50 am
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I wonder if this series will be friendly to newcomers. I've been meaning to get into Kindaichi for a while, but haven't put the effort to actually watch the anime
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fuuma_monou
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:07 am
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MagicPolly wrote: | I wonder if this series will be friendly to newcomers. I've been meaning to get into Kindaichi for a while, but haven't put the effort to actually watch the anime |
From what I recall of the anime on Animax Asia, it's pretty episodic.
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Donkey-er
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:43 am
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Ow wow, this is pretty nice news. I've been reading the Kindaichi Case Files manga recently, so I was wondering if the new live-action show would be nice to watch, but now I actually get the chance to do so!
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Triltaison
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:50 am
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Rather surprised Disney is going in on this. I understand Netflix wanting to get in with the Cowboy Bebop/Death Note/One Piece/etc fanbases, but I wasn't aware of Kindaichi having much brand recognition in the West. I know the Tokyopop manga release never completed and I don't think that was a particularly good seller for them. Did any of the anime productions actually air in English somewhere? I think some was on Animax Asia at some point.
I don't have any hate for Kindaichi at all, but it just seems an odd choice to test the waters of a partnership with. *shrug* Oh, well. Could be fun. Maybe we'll get a new manga printing out of this somehow.
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Donkey-er
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:17 am
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Triltaison wrote: | Rather surprised Disney is going in on this. I understand Netflix wanting to get in with the Cowboy Bebop/Death Note/One Piece/etc fanbases, but I wasn't aware of Kindaichi having much brand recognition in the West. I know the Tokyopop manga release never completed and I don't think that was a particularly good seller for them. Did any of the anime productions actually air in English somewhere? I think some was on Animax Asia at some point.
I don't have any hate for Kindaichi at all, but it just seems an odd choice to test the waters of a partnership with. *shrug* Oh, well. Could be fun. Maybe we'll get a new manga printing out of this somehow. |
The fact that the Tokyopop release of Kindaichi Case Files was never completed was due to Tokyopop having to stop operations in the US during the 2009-2011 period. This included almost all series Tokyopop was publishing. I don't know how well Kindaichi was selling, but it didn't get booted due to low sales.
That being said I highly doubt there is a large English speaking fanbase for Kindaichi, so the move from Disney is definitely odd.
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Neverwhere
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:28 am
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Surprising but very welcome news - I don't know how well this will translate for international audiences (especially on Disney) but anyJapanese liv e action series being licensed is an encouraging sign that more might be coming in the future
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FukuchiChiisaia
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:49 am
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Triltaison wrote: | Rather surprised Disney is going in on this. I understand Netflix wanting to get in with the Cowboy Bebop/Death Note/One Piece/etc fanbases, but I wasn't aware of Kindaichi having much brand recognition in the West. I know the Tokyopop manga release never completed and I don't think that was a particularly good seller for them. Did any of the anime productions actually air in English somewhere? I think some was on Animax Asia at some point.
I don't have any hate for Kindaichi at all, but it just seems an odd choice to test the waters of a partnership with. *shrug* Oh, well. Could be fun. Maybe we'll get a new manga printing out of this somehow. |
Let's not forget that Disney Plus is also focusing on the Asian market
Kindaichi is one of the most popular manga in Japan (obviously), Taiwan, Hongkong, and Indonesia. In Indonesia alone, Kindaichi anime was released on TV around early 2000s, while the manga is keep released every several years for demand. Even the Kanzenban release is published 4 years ago.
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Roger Pepitone
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:51 am
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On the other hand, the novels about Kosuke Kindaichi have been getting translated into English (three so far, and a fourth in the near future); maybe that's related.
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Kicksville
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:02 am
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They need to expand what kind of content is on Disney+ for the long-term health of the service (including its viability internationally, as mentioned), so this makes as much sense as anything else.
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:09 am
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Look, I may be one of the only American Kindaichi fans left, but gosh darnit if this news doesn’t make me supremely happy!
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Lord Geo
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:20 am
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Donkey-er wrote: | The fact that the Tokyopop release of Kindaichi Case Files was never completed was due to Tokyopop having to stop operations in the US during the 2009-2011 period. This included almost all series Tokyopop was publishing. I don't know how well Kindaichi was selling, but it didn't get booted due to low sales. |
TokyoPop stopped releasing Kindaichi in 2008, well before Kodansha pulled all of its licenses away from TP. Also, after just two years (2003 & 2004), the releases slowed down to just two books per year, despite the manga having been finished for years before it even got licensed.
Make no mistake, TokyoPop's release of the manga bombed. Kodansha pulling the licenses only meant that TP could never go back to it, like it eventually did with B't X (which also went on hiatus in 2008 due to low sales, but saw its last volume released in 2010).
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Stronghart
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:59 pm
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whiskeyii wrote: | Look, I may be one of the only American Kindaichi fans left, but gosh darnit if this news doesn’t make me supremely happy! |
You can count me in too lol! I love Kindaichi so much, this has got me super excited.
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Triltaison
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:31 pm
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Lord Geo wrote: |
Donkey-er wrote: | The fact that the Tokyopop release of Kindaichi Case Files was never completed was due to Tokyopop having to stop operations in the US during the 2009-2011 period. This included almost all series Tokyopop was publishing. I don't know how well Kindaichi was selling, but it didn't get booted due to low sales. |
TokyoPop stopped releasing Kindaichi in 2008, well before Kodansha pulled all of its licenses away from TP. Also, after just two years (2003 & 2004), the releases slowed down to just two books per year, despite the manga having been finished for years before it even got licensed.
Make no mistake, TokyoPop's release of the manga bombed. Kodansha pulling the licenses only meant that TP could never go back to it, like it eventually did with B't X (which also went on hiatus in 2008 due to low sales, but saw its last volume released in 2010). |
Yeah, I remember this happening in real time. You can look at the releases and see that 6 were pumped out in 2004 alone, and then only 2 a year for a few more years. That was when TP was at their height of flooding shelves with releases, when they usually did at least one volume every three months or so. That rapid of a drop in production was always a death knell for their releases. It just trickled off and faded away, and the covers kept changing styles which is always what they did to try to attract new people then. The early volumes even had generic mystery cover designs hiding the fact it was anime related to court newcomers to the medium.
Thanks for pointing out the novels, Roger Pepitone. I missed that those were coming out. And I totally forgot about the international market because I'm dumb. You all are absolutely right and this is meant to target Asian markets. At least we get to benefit from it this time! And I continue to hope for a reprinting slash actual finishing of the manga stateside.
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BlueAlf
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:39 pm
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MagicPolly wrote: | I wonder if this series will be friendly to newcomers. I've been meaning to get into Kindaichi for a while, but haven't put the effort to actually watch the anime |
It's pretty friendly.
Kindaichi is way easier to get into than Conan. While it also has recurring characters, Kindaichi has fewer ongoing plotlines. Not to mention the cases in Kindaichi tend to be more drawn out and psychological. They hardly go into action and thriller the way Conan does.
Considering their market, IMO Disney made the right call by doing this partnership.
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