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NBC Will Not Air Golden Globes in 2022 Due to Controversy with Diversity

The issue outlined in the article is about representative membership in the individuals that judge the films, not about awarding a certain number of films starring non-white cast or created by non-white crew.

That said, I thought the situation with Minari: a film made in America starring Korean-American and Korean actors and directed by an Asian-American about a Korean family in Arkansas being put into the "foreign" category because it wasn't in English was atrocious and a sign of a problem within the Golden Globes judging.

Due to terrible ratings, perhaps, but sure I suppose about the controversy. An outlet for correspondents from foreign countries based in the US doesn't have enough Black members? (So this usage is as a race then, not as the ethnicity of people with the shared cultural experiences of ADOS.)

Whatever. The Golden Globes are just the minor league Oscars anyway.

The issue outlined in the article is about representative membership in the individuals that judge the films, not about awarding a certain number of films starring non-white cast or created by non-white crew.

That said, I thought the situation with Minari: a film made in America starring Korean-American and Korean actors and directed by an Asian-American about a Korean family in Arkansas being put into the "foreign" category because it wasn't in English was atrocious and a sign of a problem within the Golden Globes judging.

That is how the award is always handled at the Golden Globes. It’s the Foreign Language award. American films primarily not in English were always put in this category. Minari was not singled out. While for obvious reasons usually films made in other countries are put in this category, Minari is not the first American film nominated. I am not saying how they handle the award isn’t weird but that’s how they handle it.

Note the Oscars award is for best International film so Minari would not be eligible.

Maidenoftheredhand wrote:

That is how the award is always handled at the Golden Globes. It’s the Foreign Language award. American films primarily not in English were always put in this category. Minari was not singled out. While for obvious reasons usually films made in other countries are put in this category, Minari is not the first American film nominated. I am not saying how they handle the award isn’t weird but that’s how they handle it. Note the Oscars award is for best International film so Minari would not be eligible.

The issue with the Golden Globes was that it ruled that Minari was ineligible for the Best Motion Picture awards because the film was in a foreign language.

In other words, the rules dictate that only films in English can get a Best Picture nomination. Period.

Or to be relevant to anime, no Japanese film and no anime film will ever win a Best Picture award (or even get nominated) under the current Golden Globe rules — but they can at the Oscars.

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/minari-foreign-language-film-golden-globes-1234874332/

According to the Golden Globes rules:
"Motion pictures that qualify for the Best Motion Picture - Foreign Language award also qualify for awards in all other motion picture categories except Best Motion Picture - Drama and Best Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy, which are exclusively for English-language motion pictures, and Best Motion Picture - Animated."

"Animated motion pictures are not eligible for the Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy or Best Motion Picture – Foreign Language awards."

https://www.goldenglobes.com/sites/default/files/golden_globe_awards_eligibility_descriptions_2020_revisions_approved_3-19-20conformed_5-27-20.pdf

But that has always been the rule. It may be dumb rule but Minari was not the first American film nominated for this a category.

Well it wasn’t always like that the rule was changed in 1987. But the point is Minari was not put in that category because it was deemed too foreign it was put in that category because it fit that category best according to the rules.

Maidenoftheredhand wrote:

But that has always been the rule. It may be dumb rule but Minari was not the first American film nominated for this a category.

You might be missing the point -- the uproar over Minari isn't just that the Golden Globes pigeon-holed Minari in one category. The controversy is also that the Golden Gloves also forced Minari out of the running for the top award.

The same is doubly true for anime, with two strikes against it (foreign-language and animated).

Maidenoftheredhand wrote:

Well it wasn’t always like that the rule was changed in 1987. But the point is Minari was not put in that category because it was deemed too foreign it was put in that category because it fit that category best according to the rules.

Not quite true. Another issue with the rules is that they are famously inconsistent. See Inglorious Basterds, Babel, and other films nominated for the Best Picture awards (after 1987) at the Golden Globes.

The foreign language film was always ineligible for the Best Picture category. I am not saying it’s not dumb but that is how the rule is. It didn’t suddenly change for Minari.

And the award has not been inconsistent. To be put in a foreign language category the film has to have a certain % not in English. Minari met the criteria those other films did not.

But I do hope Minari gets them to rethink the category in the future.