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ThatMoonGuy
Joined: 13 Oct 2017
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:19 pm
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This is a real shame. I was really enjoying the manga and could see it becoming a good seller in the future. In a sense, it reminds me of Yuki Tabata's last manga before Black Clover which had very nice ideas, somewhat similar characters but ended up dying real quick.
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vanishingblood
Joined: 19 Oct 2013
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:50 pm
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Wow, the WSJ editors really don't like Kento Matsuura huh? Two good series he's had in the past year and they cancelled both way too early, while all the other garbage still continues. Start looking elsewhere to publish your work Matsuura.
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BrainBlow
Joined: 22 Apr 2013
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:19 pm
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vanishingblood wrote: | Wow, the WSJ editors really don't like Kento Matsuura huh? Two good series he's had in the past year and they cancelled both way too early, while all the other garbage still continues. Start looking elsewhere to publish your work Matsuura. |
It has nothing to do with "liking." At least not from Jump's side. Volume sales initially seemed decent but then stagnated, so readers clearly had a more meh reaction to the series. Unsurprising with how mediocre and by-the-numbers the story and writing was. Good art only gets you so far. Jump is extremely competitive, and there's no reason they would keep a series around if it performs poor numbers, unless the series grabs some valuable niche demographic that justifies its existence. Phantom Seer is not exactly serving a tiny niche audience. It's another entry to the "teens/nonster hunting organizations doing exorcism battles of monsters/ghosts in an RL-based setting" bandwagon. JJK is currently absolutely crushing it on that front, and part 2 of CSM will sooner or later start up, so that demographic is served plenty already. No reason to keep an underperforming, meh series when its spot could be used to nurture something new. Chances are pretty good the aforementioned bandwagon will have new entries debuting soon enough. Maybe they will do better.
Its exit will probably be followed shortly by Cop & Dolphin and Build King.
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VioletCherry
Joined: 24 Mar 2021
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:17 pm
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Such a shame...I really enjoyed this series. Despite it's flaws, I thought it had real potential. Hopefully Kento Matsuura keeps trying, his art is great.
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iamthevastuniverse
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:15 pm
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Is this manga any good? Worth reading?
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Ensaru64
Joined: 14 Nov 2018
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:57 pm
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I AM THE VAST UNIVERSE wrote: | Is this manga any good? Worth reading? |
It's hard to say that it's worth reading, and this is coming from someone who warmed up to it as the chapters went by. "Average" is an apt description for this series, but the art also helps to keep you reading. You're not going to be bitter over having read the series, but you're not going to be wowed either.
I'd argue that the series has been steadily getting better: the current arc has been a good time. It feels like one of those manga that needs time to get going. The main character and heroine is now at a point where they're legitimately compelling characters, in direct comparison to the basic earlier counterparts.
Black Clover in the earlies was pretty by-the-numbers in every way. The only difference was that Black Clover gained enough traction to stay, in part due to Jump heavily supporting the series after Naruto ended. Jujutsu Kaisen was also in "ax" territory at the time, and stuck around by pure luck, and it paid off later on.
Phantom Seer, on the other hand, was abandoned after a few weeks. Out of all the series being threatened by the Ax, Phantom Seer is the one that I can see building into something worth reading after a slow start. Unfortunately, once you're in Jump, you better rush your buildup to the good parts, otherwise, you're getting the ax.
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BrainBlow
Joined: 22 Apr 2013
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:58 am
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Ensaru64 wrote: | .
Black Clover in the earlies was pretty by-the-numbers in every way. The only difference was that Black Clover gained enough traction to stay, in part due to Jump heavily supporting the series after Naruto ended. Jujutsu Kaisen was also in "ax" territory at the time, and stuck around by pure luck, and it paid off later on.
Phantom Seer, on the other hand, was abandoned after a few weeks. Out of all the series being threatened by the Ax, Phantom Seer is the one that I can see building into something worth reading after a slow start. Unfortunately, once you're in Jump, you better rush your buildup to the good parts, otherwise, you're getting the ax. |
This just isn't true. Jujutsu Kaisen's first volume sold about 28500 copies during its first week, and volume 2 sold about 50K in its first week.
Volume 1 of Black Clover sold about 38K in its first week, and volume 2 sold about 61K.
The highest estimate I've seen for Phantom Seer, for the first two weeks, was 22K, and then volume 2 was even less than that, which is fatal. And "being pushed by Jump" isn't as important as people think. Phantom Seer has about the same sales numbers as Samurai 8, and that one was a series Jump pushed HARD but just could not get people more interested in it. S8 quite clearly had its lifespan artificially inflated, and they probably learned their lesson after it failed anyways.
So Phantom Seer is hardly comparable to JJK or BC. If one had to make a comparison, Kimetsu no Yaiba is a series that genuinely did wobble on the edge of cancellation in its early days.
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BlueAlf
Joined: 02 Jan 2017
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:13 am
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I honestly feel bad about this series too. The writing often feels rough, but the art is impressive and the characters are actually pretty interesting.
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