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leafy sea dragon
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:25 pm
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Wait, I'm actually kind of confused by this whole thing. Were they doing some kind of pretend marriage thing, like some sort of role-playing, but it's illegal and they were arrested for it?
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TrailOfDead
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:37 pm
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she was paying him to be her sham husband for immigration purposes.
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VORTIA
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:38 pm
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leafy sea dragon wrote: | Wait, I'm actually kind of confused by this whole thing. Were they doing some kind of pretend marriage thing, like some sort of role-playing, but it's illegal and they were arrested for it? |
Japan has some of the world's strictest immigration laws. Marriage, like in most places, is a legitimate means of establishing legal residence, but most countries will generally prosecute fraudulent marriages conducted purely for the benefit of obtaining legal residence, which appears to be the case here.
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#sukkar
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:38 pm
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leafy sea dragon wrote: | Wait, I'm actually kind of confused by this whole thing. Were they doing some kind of pretend marriage thing, like some sort of role-playing, but it's illegal and they were arrested for it? |
Yes. This is an illegal practice because it gives someone the ability to prolong their stay in a country under false pretenses. I don't know how many countries it's illegal in, but it's also most certainly illegal in the US.
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leafy sea dragon
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:13 pm
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Ah, I get it now. She couldn't get some form of citizenship, so she did this as an attempt to stay in Japan for longer? (How was she able to live in Japan to begin with?)
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:37 pm
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Oh great a typical marriage for citizenship then bail cases, seriously, that's illegal in all of the developed world, including the US. It's more common with mail order brides though.
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TheOtakuX
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:09 pm
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leafy sea dragon wrote: | Ah, I get it now. She couldn't get some form of citizenship, so she did this as an attempt to stay in Japan for longer? (How was she able to live in Japan to begin with?) |
It says she had a student visa for 4 years, but did the fake marriage to stay after it expired.
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mewpudding101
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:11 pm
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leafy sea dragon wrote: | Ah, I get it now. She couldn't get some form of citizenship, so she did this as an attempt to stay in Japan for longer? (How was she able to live in Japan to begin with?) |
The article says she started as a student.
She probably wanted to work in some kind of job (ie cosplay modeling) not usually up for a visa for foreigners.
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Compelled to Reply
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:00 pm
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VORTIA wrote: | Japan has some of the world's strictest immigration laws. Marriage, like in most places, is a legitimate means of establishing legal residence, but most countries will generally prosecute fraudulent marriages conducted purely for the benefit of obtaining legal residence, which appears to be the case here. |
Actually, Japan's immigration laws are relatively lax. HOWEVER, the language barrier acts as a filter of sorts, which is why you generally see foreigners working McJobs at convenience stores or bars unless they're fluent in Japanese and have something to offer society. In this case as a "sex industry worker," the girl was likely a hostess at a cabaret club, or got busted for actual prostitution.
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leafy sea dragon
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:38 pm
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Ah, thanks for the clarification. I don't know very much about how immigration to Japan works, though I can understand why the things she did would be illegal.
So does this mean she's going to a Japanese prison? If so, I guess she has managed to make her stay in Japan longer, just not where she had intended.
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zunderdog24
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:45 pm
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leafy sea dragon wrote: | Ah, thanks for the clarification. I don't know very much about how immigration to Japan works, though I can understand why the things she did would be illegal.
So does this mean she's going to a Japanese prison? If so, I guess she has managed to make her stay in Japan longer, just not where she had intended. |
She will be deported.
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:06 pm
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and will probably never be allowed back in, even as a visitor.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:00 am
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This type of story has anime potential. Giving how the current American political climate on immigration, such an anime could be have streaming success here. It's also not that often we see such a story tying Japanese pop culture stuff with immigration. I wonder how CNN or Fox News would spin this if they reported it.
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mewpudding101
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:20 am
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[quote="Compelled to Reply"]
VORTIA wrote: | the girl was likely a hostess at a cabaret club, or got busted for actual prostitution. |
While I'm guessing she worked at some hostess club (just a guess), the news clearly states she was arrested for marriage fraud.
When you apply for a marriage visa, you have to go in on multiple occasions to be interviewed and tested to see if you're not committing marriage fraud (they ask you questions about your partner separately, and only if they match are you in the clear). Doesn't stop a lot of people (and if it does, they usually will just not give you the visa, not arrest you, as far as I know), but in this case, someone put in a tip that she was committing marriage fraud, hence the arrest.
-Someone from Japan who is desperately trying to get permanent residency and hates visas lol
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Sparvid
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:35 am
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Compelled to Reply wrote: | In this case as a "sex industry worker," the girl was likely a hostess at a cabaret club, or got busted for actual prostitution. |
It doesn't give a timeline for when she did that, but last I checked, while a student visa allows for working X amount of hours/week, it specifically does not allow the person to work in (legal) "adult entertainment" businesses, such as host clubs and pachinko parlors.
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