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prime_pm
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:36 pm
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Oh no where will they find another director whose resume consists of only giant monster movies?
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Yuki_Kun45
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:58 pm
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prime_pm wrote: | Oh no where will they find another director whose resume consists of only giant monster movies? |
If Del Toro isn't too busy with Pacific Rim 2 maybe he could pick up the job?
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Saku-dono
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 1:38 am
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I suppose it's not impossible to get Anno to direct this...
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:06 am
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I really liked this movie. It was a far better version than that '98 movie. prime_pm, they could find a director who has only do B movies with giant monsters and this would be their big chance for something mainstream.
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H. Guderian
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 3:01 am
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So the guy who forgot to put Godzilla in a Godzilla movie left. Well. I'm not exactly surprised.
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Responder
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 3:02 am
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Saku-dono wrote: | I suppose it's not impossible to get Anno to direct this... |
So Evangelion 3.0+1.0 never?
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Northlander
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:03 am
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H. Guderian wrote: | So the guy who forgot to put Godzilla in a Godzilla movie left. Well. I'm not exactly surprised. |
I saw some of the extra material on the disc, and the director (I think) basically held back Godzilla so long because he wouldn't want to ruin the surprise and anticipation of his unveiling by letting him in too early. Which was sweet of him, but really misguided, since I'm pretty sure everyone knows what Godzilla looks like by now, and the Godzilla fights themselves, when he finally arrived, WERE [expletive] AWESOME!
So, more of that and less of the unbelievably boring main lead would have helped the movie immensely. I'm not saying the movie had to be wall-to-wall monster destruction -- I liked the lead-up just fine -- but yes, more focus on Godzilla or the Muto (other than on millitary information screens) would have been nice.
Of course, that's me, who has already seen quite a few Godzilla movies already. I'm actually kind of curious what people who has never even heard of Godzilla before think of the movie. Or at least Godzilla's part in it.
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doctordoom85
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:38 am
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This stinks. Gareth Edwards had said we'd likely see Mothra, King Ghidorah, and Rodan in the sequel. Now that's up in the air. I just hope we don't get another movie with Godzilla as the only kaiju. It's fine when Japan does that occasionally since there's so many of the Japanese films, but with only two American films where only the second has other kaiju (which were decent original creatures and I can get not using established kaiju in a new reboot film) and the first wasn't even really Godzilla I really want to see an American take on some of the Japanese kaiju already.
I just hope this had nothing to do with Godzilla vs. King Kong already. It doesn't look like it was connected but I'm much more anticipating an American film with Godzilla fighting the likes of Ghidorah and such (and gawd, I know it would feel out of place in the verse the 2014 film established but Mecha Godzilla would rock) than having him fight King Kong.
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Themaster20000
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:58 am
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Northlander wrote: |
H. Guderian wrote: | So the guy who forgot to put Godzilla in a Godzilla movie left. Well. I'm not exactly surprised. |
I saw some of the extra material on the disc, and the director (I think) basically held back Godzilla so long because he wouldn't want to ruin the surprise and anticipation of his unveiling by letting him in too early. Which was sweet of him, but really misguided, since I'm pretty sure everyone knows what Godzilla looks like by now, and the Godzilla fights themselves, when he finally arrived, WERE [expletive] AWESOME!
So, more of that and less of the unbelievably boring main lead would have helped the movie immensely. I'm not saying the movie had to be wall-to-wall monster destruction -- I liked the lead-up just fine -- but yes, more focus on Godzilla or the Muto (other than on millitary information screens) would have been nice.
Of course, that's me, who has already seen quite a few Godzilla movies already. I'm actually kind of curious what people who has never even heard of Godzilla before think of the movie. Or at least Godzilla's part in it. |
It needed at least a fight in the second act,which was pretty dull for the most part. Big issue was the boring main character. I understand the Edwards was going for the Jaws approach with it,but it needed stronger characters if you were going to go that route.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 1:15 pm
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Northlander wrote: |
I saw some of the extra material on the disc, and the director (I think) basically held back Godzilla so long because he wouldn't want to ruin the surprise and anticipation of his unveiling by letting him in too early. Which was sweet of him, but really misguided, since I'm pretty sure everyone knows what Godzilla looks like by now, and the Godzilla fights themselves, when he finally arrived, WERE [expletive] AWESOME!
So, more of that and less of the unbelievably boring main lead would have helped the movie immensely. I'm not saying the movie had to be wall-to-wall monster destruction -- I liked the lead-up just fine -- but yes, more focus on Godzilla or the Muto (other than on millitary information screens) would have been nice.
Of course, that's me, who has already seen quite a few Godzilla movies already. I'm actually kind of curious what people who has never even heard of Godzilla before think of the movie. Or at least Godzilla's part in it. |
They probably wouldn't have liked it that much since despite what some people might think not everyone wants a giant monster movie to focus almost exclusively on the giant monster and whatever enemy monster he's supposed to be fighting. Seeing the terror of everything from the perspective of the humans who have to bare witness to these creatures stomping around causing massive destruction in the process and being virtually powerless to stop them was a far better direction to go.
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Zin5ki
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:05 pm
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Quote: | The news source Deadline describes the split as "amicable," |
News just in: Man divorces giant monster! Film at eleven.
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silentjay
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 6:30 pm
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Yuki_Kun45 wrote: |
prime_pm wrote: | Oh no where will they find another director whose resume consists of only giant monster movies? |
If Del Toro isn't too busy with Pacific Rim 2 maybe he could pick up the job? |
He isn't. He's neither writing , nor directing it, and is only executive producing it.
He probably isn't even being considered for G2, though.
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Northlander
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:12 pm
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BadNewsBlues wrote: | They probably wouldn't have liked it that much since despite what some people might think not everyone wants a giant monster movie to focus almost exclusively on the giant monster and whatever enemy monster he's supposed to be fighting. Seeing the terror of everything from the perspective of the humans who have to bare witness to these creatures stomping around causing massive destruction in the process and being virtually powerless to stop them was a far better direction to go. |
Oh, definitely, but barely having any monsters in it is kind of the opposite problem. The movie had a gread lead-in, but spent too much time on the millitary following the Muto around while doing very little else. Most of the Japanese Godzilla movies had what I though was a better mix: basically slowly and steadily build up Godzilla's appearance as well as the ones of whichever monster he was fighting, while at the same time building a steady rapport amongst the other characters in the movie. (Mostly scientists and millitary personel.) It was more like... I dunno, around 50/50 time shared between the humans and the giant monsters. With the US Godzilla, the timeshare was more like... 70/30 humans/giant monsters? And I'm probably being very generous with my giant monster estimation here.
Themaster20000 wrote: | It needed at least a fight in the second act,which was pretty dull for the most part. Big issue was the boring main character. I understand the Edwards was going for the Jaws approach with it,but it needed stronger characters if you were going to go that route. |
Indeed. Or, if not necessarily a fight, more scenes centered around civilians and their reaction to either Godzilla or the Muto, depending who happened to be dropping by. In essence, more giant monster sightings, less.... millitary forces sneaking around in the dark, only to maybe see a limb or a tail of the monsters.
It's hard to say. I did really like the movie, but as you say, the second act was kind of slow.
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:21 pm
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I think his decision to step down was due to the studio delays. They pushed things back so far, that you have to wonder if the studio is really serious about a sequel. They seem to be more hyped over the cross over movie than the actual sequel. And then you have to worry, what happens if King Kong drops the bomb on Godzilla. You might not even get the sequel then.
I think the director lost confidence in the studio and decided he needed to move on. Can't blame him for that.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:24 pm
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TarsTarkas wrote: | I think his decision to step down was due to the studio delays. They pushed things back so far, that you have to wonder if the studio is really serious about a sequel. They seem to be more hyped over the cross over movie than the actual sequel. And then you have to worry, what happens if King Kong drops the bomb on Godzilla. You might not even get the sequel then.
I think the director lost confidence in the studio and decided he needed to move on. Can't blame him for that. |
He probably saw the reaction to BvS and thought to himself he won't be a witness to this potential massacre
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