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Stark700



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:19 am Reply with quote
Dagashi Kishi is funny.

I mean, I might probably forget what the show will really be about since Hotaru, the main girl will just be so fun to watch. Can't wait for this to air especially since the PV looks fun to see already.
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Hikarunu



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:22 am Reply with quote
So it is safe to assume this is not a short 5 minutes anime?
I like a normal length anime with 2-3 short episodes in it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:13 am Reply with quote
I only just now realised the clever little wordplay joke in the title.

Anyway, pretty excited for this show. Glad that it's getting a dub but I'll be following the subtitled version because I love Ayana Taketatsu.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:38 am Reply with quote
What ARE cheap sweets anyway? Are they in contrast to expensive sweets?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:21 am Reply with quote
Hikarunu wrote:
So it is safe to assume this is not a short 5 minutes anime?
I like a normal length anime with 2-3 short episodes in it.


as i know this gonna be the normal lenght 20mins~ per episode
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Animegomaniac



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:09 am Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
What ARE cheap sweets anyway? Are they in contrast to expensive sweets?


My question is what sort of talents you need to be a cheap sweet shop owner. I've seen some of these shops in anime before and usually the customers just take the candy they want and leave the money on the counter with zero human interaction. It doesn't just save money on animation and design, it's all very rural.

So I'm thinking the basic talent would be knowing when to unlock the door?

I know, it's supposed to be they're making the candy but the description seems to focus on running the shop rather than the candy.

To quote someone from some time ago:

Candy, candy, candy...
Totally psyched now. I'm ready.

Oh and yeah, I kind of gathered that his childhood friend already liked him... it's anime.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:46 pm Reply with quote
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Proofreading. Do you use it.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:49 pm Reply with quote
Animegomaniac wrote:
leafy sea dragon wrote:
What ARE cheap sweets anyway? Are they in contrast to expensive sweets?


My question is what sort of talents you need to be a cheap sweet shop owner. I've seen some of these shops in anime before and usually the customers just take the candy they want and leave the money on the counter with zero human interaction. It doesn't just save money on animation and design, it's all very rural.

So I'm thinking the basic talent would be knowing when to unlock the door?


Well, I still don't know what cheap sweets are, but from the way you described it, you'd probably need a talent with deterring or stopping shoplifters if all you do is take the sweets and put the money on the counter.

I've seen my fair share of disasters trick-or-treating as a kid with houses where there's a bowl of candy and it says "Take One."
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:32 pm Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
What ARE cheap sweets anyway? Are they in contrast to expensive sweets?


Just the Japanese equivalent of the kind of candy you can get at the convenience store. I think a rough equivalent is anything marketed under the Wonka brand, like Nerds and Runts (which I'm sure you can get at some Japanese 7-11s too), as well as 5-packs of Rain-Blo bubble gum, Sweet-Tarts (when they came in those little packets as opposed to the larger rolls and boxes), and non-packaged penny candies like Gummy Bears.

When I was a tween in the mid-1980s, I remember you could buy individual gummy bears from an open box on the counter at Provi-Soir (a Quebec convenience store chain that was later swallowed up by Couche-Tard) for a literal Canadian penny and there was other open box candy like those black licorice "pipes" with the pink candy sprinkles on the wide end that represented tobacco that was about 10 cents, if I remember correctly. I'm not sure if convenience stores still sell open-box candies, there might be sanitary concerns, and I doubt they'd still sell gummy bears for a penny (which doesn't exist anymore in Canada, the smallest coinage currently minted is a nickel) but when I was a kid it was common.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:43 pm Reply with quote
Ah, thanks for the explanation. So they're candies in tiny portions?

The US's health department prevents you from buying individual candies, at least without tongs or scoops, unless they're sealed and wrapped. It's a growing trend at supermarkets where I live to have gummy bears, almonds, and other small things to be scooped, put into a bag, and charged by weight, but Party City is the only place I've found that sells small Halloween-sized candies for a few cents apiece (like those tiny individual Rolo chocolates for 10 cents each).
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:49 pm Reply with quote
I really just mean "cheap junk candy that little kids can afford with the change in their pocket"... i.e. not Lindt chocolate.

Though I'm 41 and I still eat Runts and Sweet Tarts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:57 am Reply with quote
SquadmemberRitsu wrote:
I only just now realised the clever little wordplay joke in the title.
But still what kind of joke can one get from "confectionery candy"? Wink

Quote:
cheap sweets shop
: think old fashioned penny candy store. Wink
These still exist here in the UK, but very few still make their own sweets in store. They're known as a "cottage business".
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Andrew Cunningham



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:00 am Reply with quote
Tenchi's answer is a little misleading.

This is a little better: http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/travel/dagashi/dagashi01.html

Generally Japanese people wouldn't refer to normal candy found in convenience stores as 'dagashi'. Certainly not Western style 100 yen candy or pocky or anything like that.

Dagashi refers to more old fashioned stuff (although still all this century.) It's not very good, so it's far less popular than the good stuff, and children get more allowance anyway, so they can buy the good stuff, which means dagashi is almost entirely eaten by kids who don't care about quality, they just want more.
It's more like those bulk bins of garbage candy, but 'kashi' isn't exclusively sweet; potato chips and savory snacks are also 'kashi' so there are savory dagashi as well, all mixed in with the sweets and sometimes hard to tell which you're getting.

I had a student bring in a bunch once and that was almost the only time I'd ever seen them in Kyoto. We tried several and didn't really care for any of them, so this may have given me a misleading impression.

Here's another decent article: http://www.nippon.com/en/views/b02101/

Ohhh, here's an that actually goes into a few major types of dagashi: http://jpninfo.com/2845
The Umai Bou were the main ones I hated.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:20 am Reply with quote
Ah, I am actually familiar with a number of these snacks, but they're kind of pricey when imported to the United States. I didn't know they were so cheap in Japan. I guess the "cheap" part is what throws me off: Those packs of gum, from what I'm getting, is no more than 100 yen domestically, but they're US$4 or $5 here, and while I do see those jelly candies and Umai-bo snacks here, they're always sold in bulk. (I've never actually bought Umai-bo. They're sold in packs of 24 tubes for about $8 in Little Tokyo.)

I've had the Tirol chocolates though, and they're pretty good. Again, the "cheap" part just goes away once they're exported, as I see packs of 12 of them for about $4. Hence, I've only ever had them once. No point in buying them except for novelty or familiarity when Ghirardelli chocolate is cheaper, proportionally speaking, and is higher quality.

Thanks for the links; this clears up a lot. I just never knew THESE were the "cheap candies," as they aren't cheap when I find them.

But yeah, looking at this, I would say the closest thing we have in the US is definitely Party City's small candies section, where they sell Halloween-sized candies for 7 to 50 cents apiece. Candy shops themselves seem to be higher-end and sell candies either by weight or sell regional, niche, indie, or otherwise rare candies that they can mark up a bunch because that's the only place you can find them (and I do put up with those prices if I want an Aero or an Overload).
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Hikarunu



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:50 am Reply with quote
I dunno why you all here so surprised with cheap candies, it's already exist outside Japan since late '80.

This is because Japan exporting their cheap candies to Southeast
Asia. I reading Dagashi Kashi manga and 60% of cheap candies stated actually selling here, though some of them are just rebrand as local candies but the cheap candies history are indeed come from Japan.

Example of cheap candy I can still found here(notice the Japanese company name at box packaging)
I actually mistaken this as normal candy when I was kid, it is a bubble gum candy.
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