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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:47 pm
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Quote: | 75% of Japanese citizens consider their TV programming to be pretty boring |
They're clearly not watching Monster Girls, then.
(Yes, I know they're obviously not.)
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SaitoHajime101
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:49 pm
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And some people I know complain about what's shown on American TV...
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:19 pm
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It's true most shows on Japanese TV sucks, especially the variety shows, talk about bottom of the barrel entertainment for most of them, we used to have them too but were killed off by a couple of idols and a very creepy host in Pink Lady and Jeff.
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EricJ2
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:27 pm
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I like to watch the Japanese cultural channel on US hotel TV's, even though I know most of the cultural-export channels consider anime "beneath" them, and yes, the majority is a lot of news and talk shows--
Think the most entertaining show I watched on the last trip was an English-lesson show, also with panelists reacting to various English-conversation scenes afterwards.
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Tempest_Wing
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:30 pm
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That last sentence.
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Cutiebunny
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:11 pm
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Japan, thus far, has been the only country I have visited where the morning news report consists of, well, very little news. I realize that the crime rate is very low in Japan, so, yes, I was not expecting anything like your standard local morning news program, but I was surprised to see that there was very little about local events on TV. Instead, the reporters went out and asked people about trends, such as one reporter asking several teenage boys and girls why teddy bears were so popular.
I agree that in small doses, it's a refreshing change, especially when you come from a country where, in one news show, you'll likely be exposed to news stories highlighting death and destruction both at home and abroad. But, at the same time, it's annoying; If you want to know what's truly going on in your country, you'll have to look elsewhere.
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Tempest_Wing
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:20 pm
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Cutiebunny wrote: | Japan, thus far, has been the only country I have visited where the morning news report consists of, well, very little news....but, at the same time, it's annoying; If you want to know what's truly going on in your country, you'll have to look elsewhere. |
If you actually think about it, it's a bit Orwellian, is it not? News stations telling everybody that everything's fine, that there's nothing to worry about. "Let's talk about flowers and teddy bears."
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Emichan
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:26 pm
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I like the morning news programs where they actually take a morning newspaper, cut it up, and post all the articles on a giant board, and then discuss each one. Relieving us of the burden of reading the morning paper, I guess.
Most of the 'us watching people watch variety clips' shows I've seen don't even really have celebrities on there. Like, not major celebs, anyway. Instead it's a bunch of d-list talents who pretty much just do variety shows for a living, and they are regular panelists on various shows, so they will be on there every week.
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ScruffyKiwi
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:51 pm
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Quote: | But cable TV never really took off in Japan, and satellite channels don't offer nearly the variety you can find in the West, so the broadcast networks over there simply don't have to try very hard to be interesting. Which means a new up-and-coming actress holding her hand to her mouth and going "kawaiiii!" to a clip of a well-trained pet is what passes for quality television. |
The lack of cable is irrelevant. Plenty of other countries also don't have cable but have massive competition between networks for viewer audiences. In that case it's all about ratings and viewer numbers for your advertisers rather than subscription numbers.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:08 pm
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Quote: | 75% of Japanese citizens consider their TV programming to be pretty boring |
Well that explains why reruns are a nonexistent thing in Japan.
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AholePony
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:29 pm
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I don't see it as being any different from Americas endless 'reality' shows. I've been bored with those since '02. Yet we still keep getting more pawn shows
When I wad in Japan I enjoyed the game and variety shows. One had a contest to order the top 10 things off of a restaurants menu. They had to eat whatever they ordered (1 item at a time) even if it wasn't a top 10 item... And small/large orders of say... rice each counted as a seperate item. So these people ended up ordering and eating things for like 6 hours. Was one of the funniest tv shows I've ever seen.
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EricJ2
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:34 pm
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Tempest_Wing wrote: | That last sentence. |
And the fact that variety shows were killed off by the rise of MTV and the fact that no one could follow the acts of Carol Burnett and the Muppets by the end of the 70's.
(PL&J was only a brief baffling six-week anomaly, among many failed network variety shows, in those pre-anime days when Japan jokes meant samurais and sushi.)
Japan has more housewives, so there's more daytime housewife fluff-news-and-hijinks programming, like we used to have back in the mid-70's of morning talk shows and game shows.
Now The View is pretty much all that's left of "morning coffee" over here, unless you count the drastic fluffification of Good Morning America and Today Show
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consignia
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:48 pm
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The style is certainly the template for what passes for original content on youtube these days. Want to watch some footage of a video game? Sorry, only if you can accept a squealing idiot in the corner.
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GVman
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:07 pm
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Quote: | But cable TV never really took off in Japan |
Huh, I never knew that. Any good things to read on this?
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John Thacker
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:14 pm
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ScruffyKiwi wrote: |
Quote: | But cable TV never really took off in Japan, and satellite channels don't offer nearly the variety you can find in the West, so the broadcast networks over there simply don't have to try very hard to be interesting. Which means a new up-and-coming actress holding her hand to her mouth and going "kawaiiii!" to a clip of a well-trained pet is what passes for quality television. |
The lack of cable is irrelevant. Plenty of other countries also don't have cable but have massive competition between networks for viewer audiences. In that case it's all about ratings and viewer numbers for your advertisers rather than subscription numbers. |
Cable in the USA is also all about ratings and viewer numbers for both advertisers and selling to the MVPDs. Subscription numbers are only relevant for the small number of premium channels that are sold direct to consumers. (Also for OTT services like Netflix and Crunchyroll, but those are not cable.) Ratings determine what price they can charge the cable company and pass on, along with what subscription tier they are placed on. It's starting to change, but subscription rates for cable TV in the US are so high that channels helping grow the number of subscribers isn't nearly as important as fighting for the attention of the large pool of subscribers.
The huge number of stations in the US just tends to guarantee that there is some niche show that you really like.
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