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phoenixalia
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Kusachiho
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:29 am
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Money 
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Shenl742
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:36 am
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Hmm, I remember a guy from XSeed saying once that for some reason voice actor contracts for games in Japan can be extremely draconian, which is why getting audio in them can be an issue. Guess stuff like this can also be a reason.
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rahzel rose
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:48 am
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Well, I certainly wouldn't say no to more BL games.
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mdo7
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:49 am
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Nemui_Nezumi
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pretty bad news for otome-game players who don't know japanese and are always hoping for an english release...
well, now we know for sure it's not the western industry the biggest problem(?)
it remembers me at that problem of licensing J-dramas outside of Japaneseàn, pretty much the same....
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Asrialys
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:52 am
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| Shenl742 wrote: | | Hmm, I remember a guy from XSeed saying once that for some reason voice actor contracts for games in Japan can be extremely draconian, which is why getting audio in them can be an issue. Guess stuff like this can also be a reason. |
I don't think it's happened in a while but it took certain number of sales of certain visual novels for MangaGamer to get the voice-overs for those titles.
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mdo7
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:56 am
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| Nemui_Nezumi wrote: | |
it remembers me at that problem of licensing J-dramas outside of Japaneseàn, pretty much the same.... |
Yeah as I said, Japanese industry don't play fair and this is why other Asian countries (South Korea and Taiwan) with their pop culture export are winning more fans around the world then Japan. At least those countries don't put draconian restriction unlike Japan.
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Apollo-kun
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:44 am
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I wouldn't trust this company with getting anything done promptly though. They've been translating "Starless" for longer than I can remember, with no end in sight. They're a great company, for sure, but their translation process is pretty freaking slow.
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Nayu
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:07 am
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| Quote: | | "anything with sex in it is easier since the voice actors are much easier." |
I see what you did there. 
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Cutiebunny
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:10 am
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| Quote: | | "anything with sex in it is easier since the voice actors are much easier." |
I see what you did there. |
Glad I wasn't the only one who saw that line and smirked.
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Ultimatum
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:44 pm
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| Cutiebunny wrote: |
| Nayu wrote: |
| Quote: | | "anything with sex in it is easier since the voice actors are much easier." |
I see what you did there. |
Glad I wasn't the only one who saw that line and smirked. |
Same here, but I have to wonder what they mean by it, exactly. Are the actors more easygoing about having their voices released? Are the actors less experienced, meaning they charge cheaper prices?
On a related note, there are BL games in the west? Honest-to-God licensed BL games? I must have been living under a rock, because I've never seen one.
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sepherest
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:56 pm
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| Ultimatum wrote: | | On a related note, there are BL games in the west? Honest-to-God licensed BL games? I must have been living under a rock, because I've never seen one. |
There's at least two or three but they're terribly outdated. Honestly if someone says they like Enzai or Absolute Obedience I'm just going to assume they either have very low standards or haven't tried anything else. It's part of the cycle of visual novels made for women sell so badly in English - Game company purchases cheap license for a mediocre game > no one wants to buy it > "Oh see, there's no market here for that sort of thing here!"
It's nice that English companies might finally be having a wake up call if they try to get a couple Nitro+Chiral titles or something.
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Juno016
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:58 pm
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| Ultimatum wrote: | | but I have to wonder what they mean by it, exactly. Are the actors more easygoing about having their voices released? Are the actors less experienced, meaning they charge cheaper prices? |
It has less to do with the experience and how easygoing they are about it and more to do with what industry manages them. Erotic visual novels are still part of the porn industry, and the porn industry is not exactly known for having a healthy set of popular, known voice actresses/actors in it that can capitalize the work's sales. Voice actresses in non-porn things tend to be just that more well-known and popular, and the people who manage them come from a much more profitable industry involving music and such.
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Ultimatum
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:11 pm
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| Sepherest wrote: |
| Ultimatum wrote: | | On a related note, there are BL games in the west? Honest-to-God licensed BL games? I must have been living under a rock, because I've never seen one. |
There's at least two or three but they're terribly outdated. Honestly if someone says they like Enzai or Absolute Obedience I'm just going to assume they either have very low standards or haven't tried anything else. It's part of the cycle of visual novels made for women sell so badly in English - Game company purchases cheap license for a mediocre game > no one wants to buy it > "Oh see, there's no market here for that sort of thing here!"
It's nice that English companies might finally be having a wake up call if they try to get a couple Nitro+Chiral titles or something. |
Aah, that's too bad. But yeah, if they tread into BL territory, they might have a better chance of selling something like Dramatical Murder or another Nitro-Chiral game. And considering that they already have some Nitroplus titles on their site, they might be more open to the idea (not holding my breath or anything, but...)
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Ultimatum wrote:
but I have to wonder what they mean by it, exactly. Are the actors more easygoing about having their voices released? Are the actors less experienced, meaning they charge cheaper prices?
It has less to do with the experience and how easygoing they are about it and more to do with what industry manages them. Erotic visual novels are still part of the porn industry, and the porn industry is not exactly known for having a healthy set of popular, known voice actresses/actors in it that can capitalize the work's sales. Voice actresses in non-porn things tend to be just that more well-known and popular, and the people who manage them come from a much more profitable industry involving music and such. |
Thanks for the explanation. For some reason, I just assumed the actors were the same ones that did mainstream anime/video game voices.
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