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Gage
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This topic is special to me because this could possibly be a topic that I posted that has a good relevance to the anime and manga scene. But anyway, in this topic I would like to discuss positives and negatives of watching anime and or reading manga and I would like you're opinion on the matter..
Diehard anime fans such as members of this site are, read anime and manga which could be knowledgable if you are a beginner or this is you're first exposure to anime. Their are a couple of minor problems with watching animation on television or buying the VHS or DVD when it comes out: Some common sense problems are, the cost of money. In today's day and age the constant rising cost of gasoline and taxes is needed to live. Heres the problem.. "Mom, can I buy the new Inu-Yasha DVD that comes out tommorow." Uh-oh! No money to buy the $19.99 DVD until a certain day. Theres one problem with watching anime also, especially on school night's this goes into affect: Most of the good anime airs on television starting at 12:00AM and usually lasts until 5:00AM on Adult Swim on Cartoon Network. But I suppose this problem can be solved if you want to learn at a tired state. Some positives in this are, aside from watching television to receive informatio, you can go online to get information. Especially, ANN in the Encyclopedia section which I love to look at! There is more than just ANN though, Anime Nation, Anime Castle are also good sites. Manga poses as a type of solution to the problems stated above. Because in the area of paying, you only pay a max of $7.99 which is what I pay when I buy most of my manga from Walden Books. Also, I buy Shonen Jump issues from local stores which is about a 1-2 dollar difference. However, money is a major problem with manga subscriptions. It costs $29.99 for a yearley subscription but it is a good deal for 12 issues. But what I advise is run over to a local store that sells these manga magezines and buy them for a max of $6.00. Something that I don't understand is, why do the graphic novels cost more than the manga magezines (Shonen Jump, Shouju Beat, etc..) when the magezines are a collection of more than just one series while the novels are only one series. Don't know about you but I'll stick with the collection of manga through the Shonen Jump issues. I personally prefer watching anime on Adult Swim during the summer time and I usually buy issues of Shonen from time to time because I just do not have alot of time to watch anime and I do not own alot of the series except for the Dragon Ball, DBZ, and DBGT series, Street Fighter, some Rock Man, and I enjoy watching my movies of Astro Boy. Now, I would like to start watching the more graphic anime. I admire detail in the shows, (points towards Cowboy Beepop.) and the storylines. It reminds me of a life anime I suppose rather than focusing totally on fiction all the time. Overall, being interested in anime is costly money wise but it is OK since you have other backup resources incase you fall into problems. What method of Anime resources would you take from the Internet, VHS & DVDs, Graphic Novels, or popular issues of Manga magezines? Do you prefer anime over manga or do you like them the same? Explain why you chose a choice. **I appologize if this topic being asked annoys you since it has been asked numerous times.** I asked this topic completley out of curiousity and did not draw from the other topics that relates to this.** |
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selenta
 Subscriber Posts: 1774 Location: Seattle, WA |
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As you stated they both have their place, I don't really think there's a WHOLE lot to debate. My roomate has a huge and growing manga collection, so I grab 2-3 and read them everyday on the bus ride to and back from school. When I get back I download and watch shows, though I've been going back and buying a lot more shows recently; but I still watch a lot on my comp, especially new stuff.
I've read some great manga that I really enjoyed like Saiyuki and Death Note, for neither of them is an anime version an option (Saiyuki the anime was.... abominable). Thus I am able to enjoy shows I would not normally be able to. I prefer anime over manga in general though, for two very simple reasons. One is that action scenes in manga are... not really action scenes, a fight in motion is infinitely more interesting to me. Two, and by far the bigger of the two, is music. Music can, and usually does, make all the difference in the world; no words can describe how much of a dramatic effect music and sound effects can have on a the tension in a show. |
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Gage
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Good points. Actually, there could be a big debate on the issue but you need to find the right person I suppose. I never really downloaded animation shows on the computer that much, come to think of it, never. I don't wanna get off subject to much but, does anyone know for a fact if Proculture Addicts excepts Money Orders as a method of payment?
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Patachu
Past ANN Contributor
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Magazines are printed on cheaper paper and intended to be "disposable." |
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marie-antoinette
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I personally prefer manga, simply because I find that 9 times out of 10 the characters are better developed in manga, which is one of the things I care about most. Also the art is often nicer in the manga, unless the anime had a high budget. The lower price is also quite nice. Finally, I like the transportablilty of manga, since with anime you have to be in front of a screen to watch it (which would be less of a hassle with a laptop, but I don't have one of those at the moment).
Also, though I don't know this for sure, I would imagine that prices of manga magazines are lower because the paper isn't as high quality plus magazines have advertisements in them, so there's additional revenue for the company. |
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Hoenheim
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I personaly like manga better, but in you're position I would stick with anime. Anime tends to better suit people with not much anime/manga experiance (well it seems you're relativly new to me, if you're not then disregard the sutff on anime) because of it's animation being more clear and the audio. I like manga better because it seems to feel more like a work of art than anime. Anime is fun to watch, but you actualy get into manga (well I do). And also it's easy to re-read when anime you can miss things a lot easier. Usualy people seem to get into anime first and then manga, which seems to work.
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Space_cowboy64
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I cant really talk because my exspirence of manga is limited, but i'm guessing character development would be perhaps much better exslpored in a manga series rather than say a one off anime film like metropolis or akira.
Not sure though cause i dont read alot of manga so just ingore that if you like ^^ space |
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selenta
Subscriber Posts: 1774 Location: Seattle, WA |
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Yeah, the higher quality artwork is worth noting in a lot cases. It's not always true, nor does it always really matter (higher quality doesn't necessarily mean more expression, the main reason for higher quality art). There are quite a few manga where the momentary expressions and the pacing created by the manga format add a lot to a series, but these aspects can be lost very easily in a show if it isn't animated just right.
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fighterholic
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I also say that manga is my preference in that you can pick it up anytime to read it, it's cheaper, and you'll find out a lot more about the series than you will in anime. Although what's nice about anime is that there is "life" brought to the characters, and you get to know them a little better and their personality, etc.
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Key
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I was thinking about making my own thread on this subject after reading a recent "Ask John" column on AnimeNation's website about almost the same thing. But since this thread's here. . .
Before I go into my own thoughts, some who have posted already seem to be implying that anime is only a stage for newbies, with manga as a higher level of sophistication. That's not only nonsense, but dangerously provocative elitist nonsense, like saying that dubs are only for beginners with "real" fans ultimately progressing on to subs. If you started with anime before getting more heavily into manga, that's great, but just because a few people do it that way doesn't mean it's the natural progression. Anyway, I thought John Opplinger raised a very good point in his reply in the above-linked column: that where a title works better in anime form or manga form depends a lot on what type of title it is. According to him, titles dependent on involved characterizations and long, complex plots tend to work better in manga form because of time and space limitations on anime which doesn't exist for manga. Conversely, comedies, intense action series, and any other title where timing is very important for effect tend to work better in anime form because the timing is more precisely-regulated in that medium. Based on my own experience, I would also add that highly emotional stories tend to be more effective in animated form, where the addition of music and, again, a sense of timing can contribute to hightening the mood. Thoughts on this? Do others agree or disagree that the type of anime/manga can affect which version is regarded as being better? |
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Gage
Posts: 480 Location: United States |
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I see. I tend to like both actually. The main reason I collect manga is to use as a reflection on a series because I rarely buy Anime on VHS or DVD and most of the time I miss airings on television. This brings up another question, do you think the person affects popularity in manga? (Well, I know that the person directly effects it) I'm the type of person who cannot get into reading that much so basically with manga, it's hard to just read and try to picture the motions which sometimes are not described as good.
I mean, I kind of see how Japanese kids have trouble reading manga (read in the news section of ANN) because it IS hard to read and follow motions on the page at the sametime which in anime, it is less trouble. In the future, Manga sales may go down due to this. Perhaps I rambled on about nothing above but it's a good point in choosing anime over manga. |
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opaquescum
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A very well thought out post. I could not help but notice you have a keen mind when it comes to money so I would like to make a very valid point.
How often do you pick up any written material that you have read. Then precede to read it again. Most people do not go back and read written material they have bought. Any type of book usually is read once, and then filed away. I suppose people have a intuitive understanding of how precious the written word is, but have no clue why. The problem I feal is that when you read something your retention of what is being read is very high, and since you have to use your imagination that only increases the retention. So once you read something chances are its burned pretty strong into your memory. So you never feal compeled to go back, and read it again. I suppose I am one of the few that will go back, and read something again. I learned how rare this was in high school when the librarian pointed out to me that absolutely nobody else did that. Even so I rarely go back, and read something again. Now on the other end I will rewatch anime over, and over, and over again. Maybe it attacks my senses, and is a more vivid experience. To be honest its hard not to get caught back up in a good anime. Maybe it is the fact that anime takes place infront of you. Reading takes place in your head. So the written word merely becomes part of your mind. While anime is a experience. People tend not to get bored with experiences, and seek to relive them. Anyway from a purely economic perspective I would view any literature as a one time consumeable. You eat it then its gone even if you put it on a shelf. The same as a slice of pizza, or a gallon of gasoline. Anime from my point of view is more of a renewable item. You watch it put it on the shelf, and a few months later you view it again. A renewable resource is something you never run out of. Like the fruit on a tree you pick it, and next year it comes back. Now if you want to look at where your money goes the farthest its the form of entertainment that lasts the longest, and generates the greatest net income of enjoyment. That being said where will your money go the farthest in a one time use item, or in a item you will use many times. Now I am not saying reading is bad. My reading binges are epic. I have been known to eat books in one sitting, and not small ones either. Reading is a great experience, but if you are attacking the problem purely on value then video media is where it is at. Not only does it last you longer, and over a greater length of time, but it has substantially better resale. To me that is the difference between video, and the written word. P.S. I highly recommend you invest in a VCR, and one VHS tape. I know some people are intimidated by the VCR, but if you take the time its a increadibly powerful tool to see all that you wish to see, and at your convenience. Most VCRs have a timer recording function where you can set it, and it will record shows for you. You simply pop in the blank tape usually turn the VCR off, and your off to the races. You wake up, or come back, and you have hours of TV to watch. To be honest its all increadibly cheap to do now. Most VCRs are under fifty dollars, and the tapes are very cheap. Add onto that you can record over the same tape dozens of times before it begins to get worn. Like the original poster said you cannot always be there, but a VCR can be, and its a great cheap way to build up a anime collection. |
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marie-antoinette
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So true. I tend to be into very shoujo series where characterization is key, hence why I strongly prefer manga. But I will agree that action sequences are much better when there actually IS action. I sometimes even skim over action in manga because sometimes it's not worth the effort to try and figure out what the hell is going on 
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Gage
Posts: 480 Location: United States |
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I love where you are coming from and you bring out good points. Something very important is the balance between anime and manga. What do I mean by this? What I mean is that you cannot focus to much on one thing and kind of leave the other side hanging.
An example of this is that you cannot watch to much anime and then decide to quit buying Manga graphic novels and such because, if you watch the show on television and buy the series episodes on VHS or DVD, what happens to manga sales? They go downhill and boom if the pattern continues than perhaps manga titles will be released more slowly and Manga will be nothing to fans anymore. This also brings up a good topic on money issues regarding anime only. *** Another Topic: Saving Money on Anime Maybe I should have established a new topic but I decided to add it here. How many are you for recording anime on television when it airs? I'm about 50% for it and 50 not. Reasons being: Recording anime on television is cheaper than buying the anime in stores. Usually it's about $3-5 for blank recording tapes compared to about $20.00 buying a DVD. In FYE, which sells a good selection of anime, it costs about $16.99 for a new release and throughout time the cost goes down. So it is OK in my book to use recording methods as a way to save money. But what about the real dedicated anime fans, it's not cool to record because usually, animes with "bad language" and "graphic scenes" are cut out on TV which even I find ruining good parts of the show. In conclusion, I find that recording anime is a good way to saving money and I have done this in the past dealing with Astro Boy and when Mega Man NT Warrior first aired. But even I break the spending rules when a good anime is released and I find the need to collect it in the release form, not no recorded tape. |
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marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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I wouldn't go that far...you don't have to be both a fan of manga and of anime, though many people are. Whether one person buys manga is rather irrevelevent in the long-run, because there will always be others out there who will buy it. |
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