Forum - View topicNeed help with Macross/Robotech
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IchigoK90
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Ok recently I've been watching Macross Zero and well I'm pretty confused with a lot of things. First thing is Marcoss and Robotech, are they the same or different? Also if someone could put all the macross series in a chronological timeline that would be helpful and if someone could give me the full story of it a long wit hthe timeline would be very helpful as i've loved macross zero and just want to learn more about the macross series.
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Space_cowboy64
 Posts: 337 Location: Great Britain...not all that great |
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Yo, yea I’ve wondered this myself for sometime. I love Robotech and watch the DVDs from time to time and I haven’t actually seen Macross zero so sorry but I can help you there. However I have seen Macross plus and I can say that they are based around the same Robotech technology idea thingy if you know what I mean. When in Macross plus the crazy virtual pop star thingy is signing in the capital there is the Robotech mother ship. Also we see inside the control deck as well in Macross plus and it is identical to Robotech even down to those crazy little benches the officers sit on when barking orders. So I think there must be some connection there. I’m not entirely sure when both are set but it’s pretty obvious Robotech would be before Macross plus and I’m guessing here but I think it might have been set before all the Macross sagas.
Hope this helps in a way 
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Punchey Monk
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Robotech and Macross are similar but different stories. Both are comprised largely of the TV show Super Dimensional Fortress Macross, but each is their own separate continuity.
Robotech is a slightly altered version of Macross along with more radically altered versions of two other originally unrelated shows: Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross (which made up the "Masters" arc) and Genesis Climber Mospeada ("New Generation"). The key differences between Robotech-Macross and Macross-Macross is that there were no "Robotech Masters," no "Invid," and a vast difference in what the heck "Protoculture" is. Instead of being some sort of cosmic flower-derived energy source, the Macross-Macross Protoculture that the Zentraedi are looking for is what it's name suggests: the original culture from which humanity, Zentraedi, etc. originated. A general timeline for the Macross continuity is as follows: Macross Zero Super Dimensional Fortress Macross Macross Flashback 2012 Macross Plus Macross 7 Various Macross 7 Movies and OAVs that I'm not familiar with There was also a movie (Macross: Do You Remember Love?) and an OAV series (Macross II) that take place in a different continuity than the other series. Hope this is helpful. 
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Kouji
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I just remembered another difference is some relationships are changed in the dub. For example, in the Robotech Masters saga, Dana is the daughter of Max and Miria, whereas she has no relation to any of the Macross characters in the original version.
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one3rd
 Posts: 1818 Location: アメリカ |
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Macross and Robotech are not the same. Robotech was an American production that used source material from three unrelated shows and ran them together. Names and story elements were changed to fit the Robotech theme. The only point where one might be able to place Robotech continuity and Macross continuity on the same timeline is during the original Macross series and Macross saga of Robotech. Outside of this, the two should be seen as completely separate entities.
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Punchey Monk
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Well, Dana (AKA Jeanne Francaix in the original Japanese) is no relation to Max and Miria because Southern Cross has no relation to Macross (aside from having "Super Dimensional" in the title). The un-Robotech-ed version of Southern Cross doesn't even take place on Earth, but rather a distant colony world where the humans are attacked by an alien race called "The Zor." In the Japanese Macross continuity, the little green-haired moppet that Max and Miriya have is named Komiria and is the first of seven daughters that the couple has. Their youngest child, Mylene, is one of the protagonists of Macross 7, which takes place 35 years after the original Macross. |
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Sir_Brass
 Posts: 476 Location: Prescott, AZ |
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There is an EXELLENT wikipedia article on macross that includes timelines, characters, everything. Btw, if you're asking because you want to get the DVDs, then I must say that the DVDs get my high recommendation. The series is old and it is definitely dated, but it is a fun show to watch (this coming from a long time, hardcore gundam fan....this is high praise).
check it out (the wiki article): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Dimensional_Fortress_Macross |
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Jegan335
 Posts: 14 Location: Lanexa, VA |
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Tack Megazone 23 into the jumble of Robotech, since it was jumbled in with other RT characters for the ill fated movie version, TheNameofWhichEscapesMeNow.
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Exaar
 Posts: 279 Location: Delaware |
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I've never really watched any of the Macross or Robotech animes, but I do own and have read all the books. Some guy named Jack McKinney (I'm pretty sure it's a pen-name) wrote a 23-book (each about200-300 pages long, with some longer ones being like 500 pages) series called Robotech, which followed all three of the Robotech storylines, from the Zentraedi through the Robotech Masters and the Invid, and even beyond to some of the original characters from Robotech going back to the Invid/Master's part of the Galaxy on the SDF-3 to fight the Invid Regent on his own turf. (That saga was called Sentinels and came after the Invid Invasion).
Since what you guys are saying about Robotech being based on three unrelated shows, I guess the books came after the anime. But from what I've seen of the anime, the books are a lot better: and they tie everything together in a very believable way, I would never have guessed that the story was actually an amalgam of differant sources. Anyone who is a fan of Robotech and hasn't read 'em should check 'em out, they're probably cheap these days since they are at least 10 years old now. |
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Kouji
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Exaar
Posts: 279 Location: Delaware |
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I figured as much. But they're still really good, and probably a lot more in-depth than the anime. So if you like the anime, you should still check them out.
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Randall Miyashiro
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Robotech the Untold Story played at a theater during Animecon 91'. It had 16mm Southern Cross footage spliced in with Megazone 23. It was really bad, but the audience managed to MST3K the film and we all had a good laugh. The new Macross release by ADV has some really good commentary that explains the Robotech/Macross bridge. BTW The new footage from Flashback 2012 takes place in the movie continuity. There was a LD release of Macross Love, Do you remember with Minmei's concert from 2012 attached to the ending credits. The rest of 2012 footage is taken from the tv series, as is the footage from Macross Mecha Graffiti. |
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