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Joe Mello
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:17 pm
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Bum bum BUMMMMMMMMM.
If you're expecting a change in quality, then I'm willing to bet you'll be very disappointed.
I wouldn't be surprised if it gets picked up on Fox, too.
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sokpupet
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:42 pm
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Episode 59. I know they cut out fillers and stuff, but i'm pretty sure that's episode 91 they're talking about. even rundown honda accords have all their parts used when sent to a chop shop. about the only reason i can stand to watch it on toonami is that it's one piece. that fact alone nearly outweighs the bad job 4kids has done with it.
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DokoMadeMo
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:00 pm
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I, for one, am extremely surprised that 4Kids is allowing this to happen; I mean, when I first heard that "One Piece" was going to premiere on TOONAMI, I was practically 100% sure that the newest episodes of "One Piece" would always have their U.S. broadcast premiere on 4KidsTV, and that TOONAMI would always be behind on the episodes of "One Piece" that they were airing on Saturday nights!! Wow, I wonder what this could mean! So, does anyone have any idea why 4Kids Entertainment is supposedly "giving up" their show [One Piece] to CartoonNetwork? Could it be because "One Piece" has performed a lot better on TOONAMI than it has on 4KidsTV? On that note, does it mean that 4Kids' original target audience of younger kids didn't show as big as an interest as 4Kids had predicted? Similarly, does this mean that 4Kids has realized that, in order to maximize profit, they should probably start focusing on an older demographic, like teenagers and older? Also, has anyone heard anything about "One Piece" returning to 4KidsTV, or will it be dropped all together?
It really does kind of make me wonder, based on the fact that "F-Zero: GP Legend" was apparently canceled, not to mention the mysterious disappearance of "Mew Mew Power", just when it had barely returned to 4KidsTV for maybe a little over a month.
Regardless, I really don't care whether 4KidsTV loses "One Piece," so long as it continues to air on Cartoon Network, because, as things are currently, this is the only way that my brothers and I can watch "One Piece"!
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v1cious
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:39 pm
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ok so this is good or bad? will this be another 4kids hack job?.
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XtremeAnimeDan
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:51 pm
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Since One Piece is also airing on Miguzi, then you can assume that the age range 4K!ds aimed it at is watching it, but also older people are watching it.
As far as the episode numbers go, it may have originally been episode 91, but it is only episode 59 of the 4K!ds dub, so they give an accurate report.
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B33
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:27 pm
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This is probally because ratings are very low on 4kids TV... One Piece gets better ratings on Toonami...
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SaveOnePiece
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:00 pm
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It get's low ratings on EVERY channel and EVERY timeslot that it's thrown onto!!! One Piece and Bobobo will likely be canned by the end of summer (though I like Bobobo).
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DarkTenshi90
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:00 pm
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Just because Toonami is airing new episodes of One Piece doesn't mean that 4kids doesn't have the rights to it still. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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camelot187757
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:33 pm
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I would think that Cartoon Network would wise up and finally cancel this show. It has low ratings and all it does is fill up time slots every time they air it. I would have also thought that the advertisers would have pulled their funding for the friggin thing by now but thats aparently never going to happen. Just pump the DVDs and give it a rest
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Wyvern
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:34 pm
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Of course these will be the edited episodes. They were showing dubbed clips of episodes that haven't aired yet on 4KidsTV ads back in August-which means they've probably dubbed the entire second season of the english version already. And they're not going to stop making changes just because they're on CN, which has less strict broadcast standards. They didn't need to make most of the changes they make now-the majority of 4Kids' edits have nothing to do with broadcast standards. You think S&P care if a sign says "Navy" or not?
These episodes were dubbed months ago, so it's in 4Kids' best intrest to burn them off somewhere. And if they're proving to be a failure on their own network, they may as well air on someone else's network where they seem to be pulling down better numbers anyway. The real question will be if they bother to make any new episodes once this "season" of the dub concludes, or if they cut their losses and stop production on the dub. If the latter happens, THEN we can speculate about the possibility for uncut OP.
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DokoMadeMo
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:44 pm
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Dexo
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:33 pm
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Um...People seem to be forgetting that One Piece on Toonami had the highest ratings for the target age group in that time spot...only Naruto had higher on Toonami...
One Piece gets really really good ratings on Toonami... a 4.0+ If memory serves...They would be stupid to not try to get more episodes...
4kidstv...Not so much...
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Yashouzoid
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:35 pm
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It doesn't mean anything, other than the 4Kids TV airings got shitty ratings and the Toonami ones don't.
If there's ever going to be a positive change made to the dub somewhere down the line, I'd expect it during Skypia (150s IIRC), and maybe somewhere deep into Arabasta.
Quote: | I just can't believe how much I've actually been missing all this time! Crying or Very sad Now I really hope that "One Piece" will eventually get the uncut DVD release [in the U.S.] that it deserves!! Very Happy |
Good news for you... Viz persuaded 4Kids to release an uncut version in a Naruto like fashion (i.e. 13 episode box sets every couple of months), and seeing as how it's been revealed that the uncuts being canceled was mainly over a money dispute, I expect to see uncuts very soon.
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Dexo
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:38 pm
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If that was to me...I Never insinuated that the dub would get better...I was just responding to the uninformed people that think that OP on Toonami got bad ratings...
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Yashouzoid
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:41 pm
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Dexo wrote: | If that was to me...I Never insinuated that the dub would get better...I was just responding to the uninformed people that think that OP on Toonami got bad ratings... |
That was in response to someone earlier (something like "What could this mean?"), and me going on a tangent with the quality thing.
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