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NEWS: Yuruyuri Manga Gets TV Anime

I'd say this is one of the best series that showcases the threshold between what those Japanese otaku expect in their yuri and what WE expect.

darkchibi07 wrote:

I'd say this is one of the best series that showcases the threshold between what those Japanese otaku expect in their yuri and what WE expect.

Maybe we put our western expectations in a Japanese genre. We see lesbianism as a sexual orientation while Japan see it as a "phase", they call it Class S. I'm not saying every Japanese think that way but the anime genre is extremely conservative, even reactionary, because its audience search a virtual love with an ideal (read sumisive) woman. Yuri is just a way to preserve the "pureness" of their waifus because lesbianism isn't a real love. As Onii-sama's Miya-sama said: "It's so sad you died without falling in love of a man. You didn't know the real love" or something like that.


Yuri was born in shoujo magazines and it usually have tragic endings for teaching what happen when a girl cross the line between Class S and lesbianism. While yaoi got a solid niche, yuri never found its audience. Most girls don't like it for obvious reasons and guys want an avalaible waifu. Yuruyuri is the future of yuri

Question: have you even read anything from Yuri Hime? From what you write it seems that your knowledge about yuri is quite outdated.

We're not in the '80-'90s anymore, the genre has evolved since then. In YH it's very rare to see a bad end, and the number of stories dealing with a more mature view (i.e. romances between girls/woman who are not in high school anymore, or about lesbians in co-ed schools, like Sasameki Koto) of lesbianism is increasing.

darkchibi07 wrote:

I'd say this is one of the best series that showcases the threshold between what those Japanese otaku expect in their yuri and what WE expect.

Maybe we put our western expectations in a Japanese genre. We see lesbianism as a sexual orientation while Japan see it as a "phase", they call it Class S. I'm not saying every Japanese think that way but the anime genre is extremely conservative, even reactionary, because its audience search a virtual love with an ideal (read sumisive) woman. Yuri is just a way to preserve the "pureness" of their waifus because lesbianism isn't a real love. As Onii-sama's Miya-sama said: "It's so sad you died without falling in love of a man. You didn't know the real love" or something like that.


Yuri was born in shoujo magazines and it usually have tragic endings for teaching what happen when a girl cross the line between Class S and lesbianism. While yaoi got a solid niche, yuri never found its audience. Most girls don't like it for obvious reasons and guys want an avalaible waifu. Yuruyuri is the future of yuri

Yuri was born in shoujo magazines and it usually have tragic endings for teaching what happen when a girl cross the line between Class S and lesbianism. While yaoi got a solid niche, yuri never found its audience. Most girls don't like it for obvious reasons and guys want an avalaible waifu.

While Japanese society is very conservative on topics such as this, I think it's become well known that anime and manga has become an outlet of open-minded expression for those who like to shatter traditional expectations of social behavior. Granted since it is a medium for expression you still get authors who stick to tradition and are happy with a conservative view, with perhaps slight twists to create variation. It all evens out but I think there is an adequate amount of stories out there that break the mold of traditional notions of sexuality. I'd like there to be more as I like my perversions, but I think with the lingering economic troubles, companies are still playing it safe by sticking with solidly mainstream oriented themes and only once and a while venturing out into the bizarre or different.

I'd just like to remind people, however, it is a sexual orientation and is not a phase. Strict belief in "S" should be taken about as seriously as southern folklore about African Americans. Just because something is a cultural belief, doesn't make it true or right. It's also a reflection of other norms in society, in this case strict indocrtination into heterosexual marriage. I will also note that Japanese society is extremely conservative so it's going to take a while for people to get off the stupid train.

Quite incorrect. As others have pointed out, your information is antiquated; "Class S" is an outdated trope.

Yuri is a growing genre commercially, and has a large female following. What is commonly thought of as the "primary" yuri periodical, Yuri Hime, is itself in the female demographic.

Today, more yuri stories about adult women in fulfilling relationships and serious self-aware lesbian characters are being produced than ever before, including ones that specifically address and dismiss the it's-just-a-phase assumption. There are many yuri stories where we see both girls and women standing up and saying "this is what I am, this is how I feel, and nothing will ever change that".

I invite you to read some, they are good for the soul.

Of course that "phase" thing is stupid, it was never my intention to aprove this believe. What I tried to say is Japanese fandom has different expectations for the yuri genre than western fandom based in a cultural diference. Frankly I hate Class S, even it ruined Marimite for me. At some point this anime started to become pointless for me because all these girls will move on from their infatuation with their onee-samas and petite souers because they are "pure" girls and "pure" girls marry with men. It sucks what they did to Sei, freaking cowards.

Yeah but we are talking about the anime market, not the manga market. None of those mangas will get an anime adaptation because yuri fandom is too niche, while yaoi has a solid fanbase who would buy anything with two guys kissing each other.