Forum - View topic[OT] What's a prefecture?
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kk
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I know this is completely off topic, but I've seen many places in Japan that have prefecture in their names like Saitama Prefecture. I've looked up the definition for prefecture on the web, but I still don't really understand it at all. So, I'm just wondering what's exactly a prefecture?
Again, really sorry for being off topic. |
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Cassandra
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from dictionary.com:
prefecture n 1: the district administered by a prefect (as in France or Japan or the Roman Empire) 2: the office of prefect prefect n : a chief officer or chief magistrate; "the prefect of Paris police" Therefore a prefecture would be the district administered by a chief officer. |
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Bruce Lee
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In more understandable terms, it's sort of like a state/province or a county.
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pythos
Posts: 127 Location: Denver, CO |
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Yes, prefectures are more like states.
In fact several US states have Japanese sister states. Two examples I know of are Colorado and Yamagata-ken, and Oklahoma and Kyoto-ken. |
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The Ramblin' Wreck
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For those of you who care/are curious:
The 47 Prefectures of Japan: Aichi, Akita, Aomori, Chiba, Ehime, Fukui, Fukuoka, Fukushima, Gifu, Gumma, Hiroshima, Hokkaido, Hyogo, Ibaraki, Ishikawa, Iwate, Kagawa, Kagoshima, Kanagawa, Kochi, Kumamoto, Kyoto, Mie, Miyagi, Miyazaki, Nagano, Nagasaki, Nara, Niigata, Oita, Okayama, Okinawa, Osaka, Saga, Saitama, Shiga, Shimane, Shizuoka, Tochigi, Tokushima, Tokyo, Tottori, Toyama, Wakayama, Yamagata, Yamaguchi, Yamanashi (per The CIA World Factbook) |
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abunai
Old Regular
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Or you could just go to the Rahmens for the full story...
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kk
![]() Posts: 109 Location: Edmonton, Alberta |
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Oh, okay, so prefectures are like states.
Well, thanks for all the replies and helping me out. Hmmm... I had no idea Tokyo and Kyoto were considered prefectures. |
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Tempest
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Many Japanese prefectures are named after their biggest city, like New York and New York State.
So there is the City of Tokyo, and the Prefecture of Tokyo. Also, Prefectures are MUCH smaller than states. (Think about it, as large as it s, the USA has 48 mainland states, Japan is much smaller and has 47 prefectures). -t |
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dormcat
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That's basically correct, but...
You picked the only exception. ![]() As far as I know, there is only one "dō" (道), which is Hokkaidō (北海道), and two "fu" (府), Ōsaka-fu (大阪府) and Kyōto-fu (京都府). While all three are translated as "prefecture" officially, "dō" is more like "territory" while "fu" is more like "municipality." The rest are "ken" (県), which are the most numerous type. |
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The Ramblin' Wreck
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Considering Japan is slightly smaller than the State of California, I always visualize the prefectures as counties. |
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abunai
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In fact, the word we usually translate as "prefectures", todoufuken (都道府県) would be better translated as "administrative divisions", since Tokyo-to, Hokkai-dou, Osaka-fu and Kyoto-fu are not strictly prefectures (ken). The rest are, though.
To (都) = "metropolis" or "capital" Dou (道) = "district" Fu (府) = "urban prefecture" Ken (県) = "prefecture" Think of Tokyo as an equivalent to NYC or London, with a number of internal subdivisions like the boroughs of those cities. Think of Osaka and Kyoto as state-like cities (like Lübeck in Germany, or perhaps a bit like Washington, D.C.) BTW, notice that todoufuken is just an amalgam of to, dou, fu and ken. - abunai |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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There's also: Iowa - Yamanashi Delaware - Miyagi Ohio - Saitama Maryland - Kanagawa Also, Hawaii has an emotional relationship with Ehime Prefecture due to the incident with the Fishing Training Vessel Ehime-Maru capsizing due to a collision of the USS Greeneville while demonstrating an "Emergency Blow" done for donors of the USS Missouri Memorial. To be specific, they refer to it as sister "municipalities". US Cities also have Sister Cities with Japan. Honolulu, HI has Sister City relationships with Uwajima and Hiroshima. |
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pythos
Posts: 127 Location: Denver, CO |
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Actually, it depends. I'm just using the terminology that most of the officials (both American and Japanese) used when I interviewed them for my research project. They called the relationship "sister states" in English and ""shimaishuu" in Japanese. When speaking about their sister city relationships they used "sister city" in English and "shimaitoshi" in Japanese. Just because the Japan Times calls them sister "municipalities" does not mean it is the "official" term. It's just one of many that can be and is used for these types of relationships. |
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