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ConanSan
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Huh.
We have sane judges? |
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blaizevincent
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I agree with the judge wholeheartedly. On youtube for example alot of Creativity has been stumped by the fact that Copyright Claims are running rampant. Destroying freedom of expression.
All that aside though, frankly considering how much money these studios make I find it hard to feel sorry for them. Everyone involved within the successful part of Hollywood is super rich |
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configspace
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Even if you support copyright, something like this is a much more rational position, stopping the infringement, but not sueing someone to their graveyards (or worse, jailing them like Japan)
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enurtsol
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How are they gonna track binary newsgroups?
But the litigation shut down Newzbin anways. |
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Nocturne123
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I agree with the Judge, but why couldnt there be middle ground? I really dont see how ruling in their favor when the site was essentially just giving you links to download a movie, would have stopped creativity. Putting up a video on Youtube that is non profit and a fan made is completely different from literally taking someone else's work and hurting said company.
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faintsmile1992
Posts: 295 Location: England |
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Saying 'piracy is theft' is a stupid idea and so is the notion of 'intellectual property' if you think about it.
And I don't care about big distributors either, but its giant corporations who are hurt less by large scale, high profile piracy than are things like independent cinema that people don't buy casually from the shelf. The sort of people who whine about 'innovation and creativity' like mega-piracy is standing up for the little guy live on another planet. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
Posts: 7580 Location: Wales |
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"..that could have a chilling effect on innovation and creativity"
I can't help wondering if he did that intentionally? http://www.chillingeffects.org/ |
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Eri94
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oblivious247
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Sure, if you think you can get by in our society without money. If I've worked hard on something, let's say a book, I expect to be compensated for it. You can't just have my book for free. I'd love for you to read my book. But I also need money. I certainly wouldn't want you copying my book and publishing it as your own either. I wrote it and then you came along and took credit for it? No. Not a chance. Eliminate our need for money, and maybe what you're saying will hold some ground. |
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Mohawk52
Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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Like any one of those companies would get a penny back anyway. A UK judge with common sense? Who'd a thought?
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partially
Posts: 702 Location: Oz |
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I can't really agree with the judges decision, unlike it seems most of you. If this was a case of IP infringement sure I would make a similar decision. However this is pure and simple blatant copyright infringement. E.g. they (the website in question) are simply reproducing and profiting off someone elses work with no creative input of their own.
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Polycell
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Mr. sickVisionz
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How is intellectual property a stupid idea? Maybe the name is dumb but there are many things that a person can create where the actual intangible good is the product. These things deserve to be protected just as much as tangible goods do. I'll never get the dislike for art that people have and the idea that the works artists create deserve no protection under the law. That it should be this dog eat dog world where someone can take an author's book, copy the words and sell it as their own creation with the justification being that they didn't steal anything physical and tangible, so it's a legal free for all. |
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oblivious247
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It is as far as I'm concerned. No one has any business selling my work as their own. |
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Polycell
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The problem is that making copies usually doesn't involve your property. What you're asking for is for people to be forbidden from arranging their property in a given pattern because you came up with it first, which is along the same lines as competing with the postal service to deliver first class letters.
Of course, if ethical arguments don't do it for you there's the small fact that absolutely nowhere in the world is infringing on a copyright prosecuted as theft. |
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