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Soo, is Fullmetal Alchemist any good?


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SecretAgent94



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:17 pm Reply with quote
I have heard from a lot of people that it is a good show, but I unfortunately never really got into it.

I generally don't have too much patience for typical shonen-type anime plots (you know, the typical tournaments, level up, hero transformations, boy meets supernatural girl) stuff.

I want an unpredictable story that will actually keep me thinking and guessing.

Also, should I just watch Brotherhood and disregard the original FMA? I know Brotherhood sticks to the manga more. I plan on skipping past filler anyway. Which show should I watch?
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egoist



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:21 pm Reply with quote
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Which show should I watch?

Hero Tales.

You intend to skip fillers? What's a filler to you? Something not included in the manga?
In that case, the first FMA is pretty much all fillers, and you should know that.
So, why ask?

By the way, I don't consider Brotherhood self-sufficient. In other words, it relies on either the manga or the other animated series to be fully understood.
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SecretAgent94



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:24 pm Reply with quote
egoist wrote:
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Which show should I watch?


In that case, the first FMA is pretty much all fillers, and you should know that.
So, why ask?


Well..I didn't know that. It's just that I am busy with school and stuff these days and I don't have time for episodes that don't move the story forward.
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egoist



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:30 pm Reply with quote
SecretAgent94 wrote:
Well..I didn't know that. It's just that I am busy with school and stuff these days and I don't have time for episodes that don't move the story forward.

Not to sound too rude, but that attitude really intrigues me. I'd understand if we were talking about Bleach, or Naruto fillers, which are endless and boring.

The first FMA anime created a large portion of the series as the manga were far from finished back then. Having not read the manga, I still wonder which one inspired (note: not "created") which, since the manga itself just finished this year, and the first anime finished over 5 years ago.

And no, "filler" doesn't signify absence of story.
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SecretAgent94



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:40 pm Reply with quote
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SecretAgent94 wrote:

The first FMA anime created a large portion of the series as the manga were far from finished back then. Having not read the manga, I still wonder which one inspired (note: not "created") which, since the manga itself just finished this year, and the first anime finished over 5 years ago.

And no, "filler" doesn't signify absence of story.


The filler debate is not an easy issue, and maybe I should give it a chance though. I kinda just have a grudge against it because filler killed my favorite anime, Rurouni Kenshin. Sad

But as far as I know, the FMA example is a unique case. Usually filler like the ones you've mentioned from Naruto and Bleach make watching the show like a chore rather than something you enjoy watching. In most cases, fillers make a show worse.
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Unicorn_Blade



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:00 pm Reply with quote
For my part, I can recommend both series, each for a different reason.

The story in FMA1 is different from themanga, but the 'filler' episodes push the plot forward, there is just a few that are more of a comic relief (out of 50 or 51, that's not a lot), and for me they contributed to the mood rather than killed it. The plot is not boring, there is a few twists, and the mood is excellent (and so is the score). Id say, give it a go and see if you like it.
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SecretAgent94



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:06 pm Reply with quote
Alright, so now I am under the impression that FMA's filler is actually a good thing...Okay I guess I can make time for it
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SecretAgent94



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:06 pm Reply with quote
Unicorn_Blade wrote:
For my part, I can recommend both series, each for a different reason.


Thanks a lot, I will give it a go, but what is the reason you recommend Brotherhood?
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Mushi-Man



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:13 pm Reply with quote
Personally I would suggest the original FMA. Sure Brotherhood stuck more to the manga, but in the end the story wasn't as good. I fell like the story made in the original series was far better and much deeper than anything brotherhood was touching on. Also the director that they brought in for Brotherhood (Yasuhiro Irie) really didn't match the level of the original director, Seiji Mizushima. And the worst part about Brotherhood was that it suffered from the Bleach/Naruto effect, which basically means that it had an annoying habit of ruining perfectly good scenes with "comedic" moments that weren't actually funny. I mean sure the original series had this problem a bit but it died out as the series went on reflecting how the story was getting darker and more serious.

But this is just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:18 pm Reply with quote
Watch both series. They're both filled with interesting characters, gripping drama, and interesting concepts.

Which is better? Decide for yourself. But they're both excellent. Probably the best anime to come out in the past decade.
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Darc_knight



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:03 pm Reply with quote
Watch the original. Most anime reviewers give half assed reviews that are always biased or simply full of B/s.
Watch it and you decide for yourself.
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face in the windowpane



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:15 pm Reply with quote
I just finished watching the original series (though I still need to tackle the movie, The Conqueror of Shamballa, which is the true ending to the original anime). I haven't seen Brotherhood yet.

I highly recommend the original series. Like you, I have a low tolerance for 'level up' type action anime. FMA is free of most all of the tropes found in typical action anime. In fact, I wouldn't even call it an action anime. There are battles, but they're pretty short (save for one instance, in the middle of the series), and usually not anything to go crazy over. As a matter of fact, I found that, especially towards the latter half of the show, the battles were pretty underwhelming - simply because they'd been built up to for so long, but they're no more flashy or intense than your average FMA fight.

Don't go into the FMA expecting awesome fight sequences, because you won't get them and you'll be disappointed. Heck, don't even go into it for cool powers - alchemy has a lot of potential to be awesome, but the show rarely gets creative with it. Go into it for the characters and the plot, which are excellent. Not masterpiece grade, but excellent. If you want the whole package - great story, great characters, and awesome action - then, I dunno, you may want to look into Brotherhood. I haven't seen it myself, but everyone seems to agree that the action is better... although there is some debate over which anime has the better story.
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Sanosuke_Inara



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:36 pm Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
Probably the best anime to come out in the past decade.
Pfft, oh, hell no--not even close.

It is a good enough series, though. I'm not a huge fan of either, but if I had to choose which one I enjoyed more, I'd go with the original series for a lot of the reasons that Mushi-man mentioned earlier. Brotherhood isn't bad, though.
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Charred Knight



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:40 pm Reply with quote
egoist wrote:
SecretAgent94 wrote:
Well..I didn't know that. It's just that I am busy with school and stuff these days and I don't have time for episodes that don't move the story forward.

Not to sound too rude, but that attitude really intrigues me. I'd understand if we were talking about Bleach, or Naruto fillers, which are endless and boring.

The first FMA anime created a large portion of the series as the manga were far from finished back then. Having not read the manga, I still wonder which one inspired (note: not "created") which, since the manga itself just finished this year, and the first anime finished over 5 years ago.

And no, "filler" doesn't signify absence of story.


The manga was plotted out from the very beginning, now I have no idea to what degree (I suspect the manga's later return to Reole/Liore was a response to the anime), but the basic plot was revealed to both staff of the first anime and Brotherhood.

Generally speaking I prefer the manga/Brotherhood plot, simply because it has a more epic feel to it, the characters are used more, and I usually like Arakawa's versions of the characters better. I also feel like the ending of the first anime is really bad, with the movie in particular being horribly done.

Even though I just said that I recommend looking at both series, the staff from the first anime, and Arakawa take the series in radically different directions, have different interpretations of the characters, and comparing both is an interesting thing to do.
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John Casey



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:44 pm Reply with quote
I seen this thread before.

Five dudes come out, tell you it's good, then a troll bursts in and says its the worst thing ever. One of the original five will then blow a gasket, while unwanted mincers who misguidedly took the troll seriously begin to defend his "argument."

Before you know it, it's Vietnam again. And in the midst, you have a good ol' shitstorm on your hands where even logical, reasonable thinking people get involved in something that should've been really simple, and just for the fun of it, an old "anime veteran" (read: 50-year old virgin) will tell everyone off, and talk about the good old days of anime, and how he's a tough bastard by surviving his last year's trip to the proctologist to get his butt checked for polyps, which actually, steers the thread to nowheresville, which actually might ending being better for the topic altogether.

Case in point - this is a super objective and subjective question, and it's impossible to get a straight answer out of anyone without someone else having issue with it. In short, it's the sort of thing where you simply won't get a straight answer without being confused over people arguing.

Best thing you can do is...I dunno, just go and read reviews on professional venues.
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