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Enough re-re-re-re-releases!


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Koast



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:07 pm Reply with quote
I'm complaining a lot tonight I know, but I figured I might as well do it here and get it over with. Hopefully someone from the industry will see this and, well anyway....

All I want is new titles of anime series released out, that's it. But that's getting a lot harder to see lately than it was before, so far all I see are re-releases of boxsets that have been re-released before by the same company 20 times. Now I understand that some series need to re-release because of the fact that the original publisher that held the write went bankrupt, what I'm talking about now are the same series that get released over and over again for no other reason than putting it in a fancy new box.

I mean, how many new boxsets of Full Metal Alchemist does one person need anyway?? Not to mention series like Last Exile and others which mostly come from Funimation it seems. It looks as if funimation would rather spend money on re-hashing stuff they already did then actually get rights to new series and put some stuff out there. And there's a lot of great series out there patiently waiting to be released..

But what do I get instead? Just another boxset of Dragonball Z released again for the 5th time.. Ah, it gives me a headache just thinking about it honestly.. I haven't heard any news about a new series being taken for a while if someone knows please tell me..!
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:12 pm Reply with quote
Some old titles held by Geneon and CPM are still good and people want to give money to own them. That's hard when a company doesn't exist to take the money. Along comes another company that rescues and rereleases said title that people want to pay money for. Is it that hard to understand? As long as people are willing to buy, you can continue to rerelease.

And, it's not like anyone is forcing you to re-buy it. Argument over.
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Koast



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:42 pm Reply with quote
I think you missed my point entirely, why would they re-release a release that was already sent out when the existing one is fine? Not to mention there are no new titles being sent out whatsoever. I don't care by the fact that they are there, what I care about is that they're spending more time re-re-releasing boxsets than they are actually getting new titles.

[EDIT: No need to quote a person you're directly replying to. -TK]
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:48 pm Reply with quote
Keeps things fresh, allows them to try out new packaging or putting in different extras.

[EDIT: No need to quote a quote with a quote. -TK]
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jmfsilenthill



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:23 pm Reply with quote
Well I agree with you on this one. Funimation seems to enjoy doing re-releases a little too much. There have been like 3 Mushi shi boxsets in the last year and a half. Re-releases almost always have inferior packaging as well.
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akitainu



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:24 pm Reply with quote
Generally, the re-releases are substantially cheaper. I just picked up the whole Suzuka series for less than $15. I also got Mushishi and Solty Rei pretty damn cheap compared to their original releases. This was all in the last week.
They already have the licenses...why not try it out at different price points?
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Ranma87



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:25 pm Reply with quote
Typically re-releases cram more episodes per disc and you get reduced video quality.

I point to the Inuyasha box sets lol
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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:04 am Reply with quote
Koast wrote:
Just another boxset of Dragonball Z released again for the 5th time.


To the ignorant, perhaps.

The Dragon Boxes are the only proper release DBZ has ever received in the US after a decade of swindling and substandard releases by Funimation, and Kai is a different beast altogether.

Not to mention, a lot of anime titles go in and out of print, and re-releases ensure that they stay available for the people who haven't purchased them yet.

Nobody's forcing you to buy anything you don't want. Licensors have to make money from these titles, though, to stay in business. Every new DBZ release makes money for the next new title.
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RHachicho



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:37 am Reply with quote
Aye world is in recession everyone is tightening their purse strings Anime companies included. You gotta expect them to do some easy money stuff like this. Still it sets a bad precedent. Look what happened to hollywood. The only thing I can say is that life aint fair. Still even if Anime should fall into decline something else will take it's place the world has a very real appetite for non "kiddy" Animation so if it's not the Japanese someone will do it. Not that I am being a prophet of doom I really don't see Anime declining to that extent in my lifetime. I could be wrong tho.

Anyway don't forget ...

Some things in life are bad,

They can really make you mad,

Other things just make you swear and curse.

When you're chewing on life's gristle

Don't grumble, give a whistle.

And this'll help things turn out for the best.

And....

Always look on the bright side of life, (whistle)

Always look on the bright side of life, (whistle)
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doctordoom85



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:42 pm Reply with quote
The reasons are fairly simple:

#1: most obvious one, to keep the series in-print. Believe it or not, new anime fans come into existence each year, and they might be interested in titles that have been around for more than 2 years or so. Keeping series in-print allows them to enjoy those titles along with us hardened-veterans without forcing them to buy old boxsets on Ebay/Amazon for ridiculous prices

#2: prices keep falling with each release. If fan A bought the initial release because he would buy the series at any price but fan B only wants to buy it at a cheaper price, obviously releasing it at lower price makes sense

#3: license expire if a company doesn't release a new version of a DVD after a while. Obviously, companies would rather keep their license as long as possible, since you know, they paid for them and want their money's worth
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Nom_Anor



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:06 pm Reply with quote
Go to ebay. Find a complete set of CardCaptor Sakura (that isn't a bootleg). Check the price. If it's less than $500 dollars, you've found yourself a steal.

Now compare this to 2006. I was looking at the complete set on TRSI, for a cool $80. Biggest regret of anything I didn't purchase.

The difference? It went out of print. It got to the low low price of $80 dollars because the manufacturer was trying to get every last dollar it could before it lost its license, and so it was selling it for cheap to places like TRSI.

So this is why re-releases are a good thing. Because in four years, it will still be possible to find these series without dropping more than one Benjamin. All while getting the companies a few more dollars.
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Ggultra2764
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:26 pm Reply with quote
Nom_Anor wrote:
Go to ebay. Find a complete set of CardCaptor Sakura (that isn't a bootleg). Check the price. If it's less than $500 dollars, you've found yourself a steal.


Reminds me of my two month hunt to get all of Kimagure Orange Road on DVD, all for just over $300.

It's not easy trying to get out-of-print titles off E-Bay and Amazon at a reasonable price as individual DVDs and box sets are often worth more than the original retail price they were sold at and E-Bay auctions can be very competitive for them at times. It took me several tries just to win Haibane Renmei and Key the Metal Idol off E-Bay auctions at reasonable prices I could afford. A re-release makes it a lot easier and affordable to get older titles that you would be willing to buy and there are still some titles I wish would get license rescued so I don't have to pay an arm and a leg to own them (*cough* Utena *cough* ).
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jmfsilenthill



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:34 pm Reply with quote
Nom_Anor wrote:
Go to ebay. Find a complete set of CardCaptor Sakura (that isn't a bootleg). Check the price. If it's less than $500 dollars, you've found yourself a steal.


Got mine for 250 bucks CAD Smile.
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KanjiiZ



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:42 pm Reply with quote
He's talking about rereleases of anime like motherfing Speed Grapher and Kiddy Grade, not OOP stuff. At this point they're pinching money wherever they can. Companies like FUNImation are getting kind of annoying with their programs where they sell half-set anime and then release them in a complete set. It kind of makes me feel ripped off. It's the only reason I didn't bother buying Big Windup! at first.

Off topic: I'm getting as much anime from Geneon with artboxed that I can. I know I'm a complainer but FUNImation sucks at creative packaging. I'd much rather get the artbox of Gankutsuou completed and with extras than the slightly cheaper SAVE version with no extras.
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garfield15



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:49 pm Reply with quote
Er, actually, I got the latest Speed Grapher set for a really sweet deal on TRSI. I'm really glad they re-released it.
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