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Wells45



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:10 pm Reply with quote
We all know the story of The Count, but how do you guys like the anime adaptation? I've been watching it on the netflix instant queue, and it seems well enough to me, but I just cannot get used to the art scheme/visual effects. Is this technique used in any other anime and how do you guys feel about it?
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:11 pm Reply with quote
It's a pretty good series. I liked it overall. The art was actually one of the things I like the most about it.
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ArmchairTitan



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:17 pm Reply with quote
Gankutsuou is certainly an acquired taste. I can't recall any other anime with a similar visual style either.

Still, I enjoyed the ride. While some of the characters (Albert) were extremely annoying to me in their lack of consistent development, I liked the progression of the narrative as a whole.

However, towards the end I found myself losing interest. Perhaps it was due to the animators choices regarding the source material or certain "flashy" effects they employed.

Either way, I was happy with the overall experience and quite enjoyed the strange art style.
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Errinundra
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:04 pm Reply with quote
I think the patterned characters successfully mask the limitations of the 3D background designs and the otherwise basic 2D character designs.

I loved it first time round and rated it masterpiece in "My Anime", however I'm thinking of downgrading my ranking. It's very plot heavy and there are no stand alone episodes which means I find myself disinclined to re-watch much of it.
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ailblentyn



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:20 pm Reply with quote
i too found it rather heavy going, enjoying it greatly at the start but losing interest as the series went on.

the ideas behind the design were obviously wonderful, and very appropriate to the world of the story (both original book and adaptation), with its emphasis on show, on the superficiality and fragility of the characters' identities and their world.

and then there would be other scenes that were strangely uninteresting to look at. i seem to remember one long conversation early on (while they're still attending carnival on the moon?) which looked as if it were taking place in some enormous underfurnished room at a ramada inn.
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Mushi-Man



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:57 am Reply with quote
I loved this series and it's one of my favorites of all time. I think they were able to adapt the story and characters pretty well and tell the story in a new way that brings some new life to the story. The script and the directing were both done wonderfully and really kept the story going at a good pace while keeping the integrity of the original french novel.

As for the art style. I loved it. They art was very different from any other anime out there and it gave the series and hook. And I highly doubt you'll find another anime that uses this style. It's actually, the my knowledge, a French art style. This is used to give it that traditional European feel to it.
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jmfsilenthill



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:42 am Reply with quote
Gankutsuou is an amazing series. I actually didn't have any problem getting used to the art style at all, I really dug it actually. And I love alternate re-tellings of classic stories Very Happy.
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Skylark



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:57 am Reply with quote
I had to watch the series twice to like it; the art style definitely alienated me the first time. I appreciated its boldness, but felt overall it was somewhat distracting (on my first runthrough). On the second it felt much more natural and I got pulled into the story much easier.
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Maryohki



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:24 am Reply with quote
I adored it on the first go around and it's one of my top 3 anime that I've ever seen. I was shocked when I first heard that the art style and animation techniques were off-putting to a lot of people. I instantly fell in love with it. I've never just stared at a character's hair or clothing and been utterly mesmerized before. But the solid story and likable characters easily matched the art and animation. Overall just a very high quality title.
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Mister V



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:22 am Reply with quote
I don't think Gonzo ever did anything better, as much as I like some of their other works. They don't have the magic Madhouse touch, but the visuals here were impressive enough to forget about everything else (which also was really good) and place it among the top series of the decade (and since we're in the next decade, I suppose it's already part of the classics).
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HaruhiToy



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:31 am Reply with quote
I thought the artwork was fantastic -- but I made the mistake of showing it to my dad (an artist) who thought it was terrible. He also had a big problem with them taking liberties with the original story. My sister (also an artist) loved it.

It was a very ambitious, risk-taking production and they should get credit for that.
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Wells45



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:29 am Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
I thought the artwork was fantastic -- but I made the mistake of showing it to my dad (an artist) who thought it was terrible. He also had a big problem with them taking liberties with the original story. My sister (also an artist) loved it.

It was a very ambitious, risk-taking production and they should get credit for that.


I agree, definitely an ambitious title that if anything knocked you on your heels before standing you back upright to see a good series. I wish more studios would follow Gonzo's lead and branch out from the traditional anime art styles. Don't get me wrong, as time passes each show becomes much more crisp (Angel Beats! for example just wrapped up, and though the art was fairly traditional, it was phenomenal) but I'd like to see more studios go for a c-c-c-combo breaker.
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KanjiiZ



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:37 pm Reply with quote
Here's the thing about Gankutsuou's artwork: interesting, flashy, animation and artwork only takes you so far. With anime like Kaiba, Tatami Galaxy, Gank, etc. the effect starts to wear off and you're sitting there like, do something you know? I'm currently at episode 14 and my interest is really starting to dwindle. I'm interested in the idea of Albert having a possibly homosexual relationship with the Count because he seems to have stronger feelings for him than his fiancee, Eugenie.

I really wish the opening and ending songs were switched though. After every episode you get this blaring "YOU WON'T SEE ME COMING!" after the episode leaves on a sad note instead of "We Were Lovers".
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Kelly



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:49 pm Reply with quote
I think, aside for the tone and content dictating that it's for an adult audience, that the experimental art further narrows it down to the IFC/PBS crowd. Definitely for an artsy audience.

I watch it on occasion, but don't have it in heavy rotation. I have to be in a certain mood to watch it because as a whole it leaves me a bit depressed because it says some rather sordid things about human nature.
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Player No. 3



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:09 pm Reply with quote
KanjiiZ wrote:
I'm interested in the idea of Albert having a possibly homosexual relationship with the Count because he seems to have stronger feelings for him than his fiancee, Eugenie.


Ironic, considering that spoiler[the novel hints that Eugenie had a relationship with another women: Louise d'Armilly.]

As for your concerns for the plot, it definitely picks up; I encourage you to stick with it. This is one of my favorite series because of how it examines revenge. (And Haydee's opera dress is freakin' gorgeous.)
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