Forum - View topicwhy is it some anime have a crapy ending (emotoinal )
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naraku
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like on pokemon or on oneoeice or dice
[edit - user warned for spelling and grammar -b] |
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msi435
 Posts: 465 Location: Behind you! |
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Well I wouldn't say an emotional ending is a crappy one, but yes your right most anime have crappy endings. Why? I also have no idea. It could be for a plethora of reasons.
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OTP
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True, but let's face it, when any show, not just anime, has a crappy ending, it's usually for one reason: bad writing. |
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Slayer
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Are you talking about the ending to the pokemon tv series or movies? the movies do have somewhat bad endings. Uhh I would also have to say bad writing but also due to poor planning in the story. THey didn't lay out the story well for a good ending
 I do love a sad ending 
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sariyana
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i agree. most of it's probably just bad writing, although i've never seen the end of pokemon or dice (haven't seen any of that show, actually...). but, a crappy ending, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder. people have many different opinions on what is a crappy ending.
this is a good example. i despise sad endings (yes, i have gotten hooked on 'happily ever after' endings... i know, i'm pathetic) and so, no matter how good someone says an ending is, if it's sad, it's crappy in my opinion. however, the most cheesy happy ending is good, well, to me anyway...
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Steventheeunuch
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What an intricate and well-formed argument, Hitokiri Battosai. You must be a member of MENSA! |
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ShellBullet
 Posts: 1051 Location: I hit things, with my fist. |
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I haven't seen the endings of any of these three shows, so I can't comment on them. In general for an ending to be good for me it has to have at least a twinge of sadness to it. The ending can be generally happy as long as their is at least one sad element. Why? Well, I think that's more true to real life; nothing is ever 100% happy and outcomes are never, ever as good as they could possibly good. Also, I don't like too much saccerine in my diet.
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Acolyte
 Posts: 100 Location: Searching high and low for my missing waist line. |
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When you ask this, are you refering to actually "crappy", such as the last two episodes of NGE and Mohoromatic, or just emotionally rending, like Figure 17 and Sugar, A Little Snow Fairy, the last episode of Kino no Tabi? Or are you refering to only the three titles you mentioned. There's a vast difference between poor writing and an ending that wasn't quite what you where hoping for. I got the gut feeling you weren't only talking about the three specifically mentioned, because of the (emotional) part of your thred question. And quite frankly, it's a question I've pondered on for a long tome now. Call be an ignorant, American, bigot (why, well, because I am;) but it strikes me that it may be a Japanese cultural mind set. Death, fateful sad ending, bittersweet partings, all seem to be the rule as opposed to the exception. We're talking about a culture that took and made suicide an art form (yes, I said "art form"), and created a special cadre of pilots, the Kamekaze (I spelled that wrong, didn't I  ) whose sole purpose was to go out and die in a plane crammed to the brim with explosives  . Uh, I catch the next flight, thanks... 
But of course this is a specualtive generalization on my part. It all boils down the the movies/OVA's/TV series you choose to watch. There are as many happy endings as there are sad ; just as many inane moments  as serious  ; just a many laughs as tears  .
In all truth, I'm interested to read other peoples thoughts on the matter.......... 
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Perfectsword
 Posts: 527 Location: Somewhere in NY |
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It's all a matter of opinion.
Samurai x relfections-I believe it was a good ending to the kenshin series. Did I think they went about it all wrong? of course. But i think the ending was fit for kenshin. Hellsing-The last episode; they didn't really explaind what happend with Incognito and Set and Alucard/Arucard. But you probably should be able to understand what happend. But who was Incognito working for? It didn't say. Thats why it was crappy. FLCL-Aswom ending. Left it openended to maybee a sequal (yeah right). And you got to see Naota after the whole conflict as a more "mature" person. Voices of a Distant star - Enough information was given to know what happend to the two lovers even after the anime was over. Aswom. A lot of people probably diagree with me on Kenshin and many probably agree, but once again, it's a matter of opinion. (Bad wrting; could judt be that the writers dont want a cleche ending) |
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CCSYueh
 Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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Really the creator's vision is the creator's vision. For example, my 14 yr old loved Dodgeball (loves Comedy Central, Stand-Up, etc), so I bought the dvd & there's an alternate ending which, according to the commentary track attached to it, WAS the original ending which didn't play well for the test audiences so the studio demanded a new ending. My daughter & I were flabergasted-that ending did suck, but the director claimed he even quit for a week because he wanted that ending & it does explain the little tacked-on bit by Ben Stiller about happy endings at the end of the credits-probably the director venting.
So really anyone else's opinion that the ending of something is rather a moot point. These things are, unless they are doccumentaries/biographies/etc,, works of fiction from soneone's head & play the way that person intends it to play. Yes, I've disliked endings of things, but that's the maker's right-the story is his/her brainchild to do with as that person sees fit. We all saw what happened to DBZ when outside forces influnced the author to keep the title going longer than he had intended & I've seen comments in the little side columns by manga artist when they are forced to follow something than their original plan-like the complaint in Marmalade Boy(or was it Kodocha-haven't read either since I finished them when they were released by Tokyo Pop) that she was forced to drag the manga out a bit because the animators wanted the 2 to end about the same time. Similar with Tokyo Mew Mew-maybe one of the things that made me consider it a lesser work was the side column comments about feedback from the editor-made it seem very much a scripted piece, which all manga could be, but what we don't know doesn't hurt us. From those columns I formed the opinion it was commisioned/formulated to be the next Sailor Moon(& really seems similar to Clamp, also known for their magical girls) Yes, I know it's a business. I just like to think of my entertainment as a creative effort & not something cranked out off a conveyor belt(so if it was, don't tell me & I might not notice. Then again I might) |
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ThatMatt
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In the bad endings I've seen, its one thing to me, they don't explain the ending enough. You don't really know what happens at the end, you get the general idea, but it leaves a lot to the imagination, I don't like that.
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Mohawk52
 Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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Some endings are ambiguous because that particular title might have a manga still running and so to have the anime end with a solid conclusion wouldn't fair well with the manga fans.
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Lazuright
 Posts: 54 Location: Leominster, MA. |
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The real question is, Would you rather see a crappy ending that ends the series or movie, and possible ruins it for you, or an ending that leaves you spell bound and dieing to see more even though there wont be more.Tough choice somtimes.
Like in Angel Sanctuary, it just ends. It leaves you asking for more. Unlike Orphan, that ending was a blast, with just a little hint that there would be a 2nd season. It could have ended then and there and i would be happy. But there are those series that are great and you love it, then the ending comes, you watch it and then you just look at the whole series and say, "It's ruined." i don't know, it kind of like life, it can great, then in the end it sucks! |
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AKOrtega
Posts: 35 Location: Sacramento, Ca |
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Angel sanctuary was just an OVA special that was made around the time the final book was finished. See the manga of Angel Sanctuary was 20 volumes long so when they finished the mangas they made three part ova in order to get people to start reading the books. The ova prety much somes up the first 4 books. so if you want to know how it ends you have to read all or just the last book. Or just ask some one who has, Like me! |
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Kruszer
 Posts: 7995 Location: Minnesota, USA |
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I generally prefer a nice happy end but a good sad one is acceptable too as long as it's done right, like in spoiler[Cowboy Bebop or Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counter-attack.] Some endings like that of Wolf's Rain and Big O on the other hand, who opt for the "reset button" endings, I just can't understand. They ruin the whole series for me. Then there are those that are just plain unfinished works due to production dificulties, ratings, or whatnot that are best avoided like Pilot Canidate or Ninja Resurrection. Of course sometimes it's just bad writing as mentioned above. The last two problems certainly not being exclusive to just anime.
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