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keikanna44
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I knew it! The manga creators are not going to stand for it.
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Chunx
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That's a very interesting list of artists... the freedom of expression must hold true, even if some of them are questionable ones.
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GATSU
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What's ironic is many of those manga-ka(at least to my knowledge) don't even deal with sexual content.
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Kenji_Ikari
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Makes sense. Pretty much every manga/anime has 'sexually provocative, "visual depictions" of characters who sound or appear to be 18 years old or younger.' Especially the more racy ("ecchi") ones like Ranma 1/2 or Love Hina.
And those are pretty much the only anime/manga selling right now. |
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zalas
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From the linked Sankei article is a great quote by Tetsuya Chiba:
「文化や表現など新しいものが起きるときはいろんな種類の花が咲く。スミレやサクラなどかれんな花もあれば、ジャングルで形もにおいもすごいラフレシアのような花もあるが、根っこですべて繋がっている。『この花は汚い』と根を断つと、植物群全体が滅ぶ」 Quick and dirty translation: "Various types of flowers bloom when new forms of culture and expression arise. If you find pretty flowers like violets or cherry blossoms, you will also find flowers with outrageous shape and smell, such as the rafflesia, which grow in jungles. However, they all share the same roots. If you think 'this flower is dirty' and uproot it, you'll end up destroying all other plant life as well." |
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Cynim
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personally, I saw that coming too ! it was quite obvious !
nicely said, Chiba Sensei ! |
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hissatsu01
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Well, if there's anything I learned from the esteemed commentors on the previous article on this subject, it's that all these people are likely disgusting pedophiles, supporters of disgusting pedophiles, or they're just confused and can't see the benefits of this wonderful and well thought out legislation. There's just no other possible explanation.
Edit: Not just mangaka, but publishers as well. C'mon people, time to update those blacklists big time. Last edited by hissatsu01 on Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:35 am; edited 1 time in total |
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sharonlover
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I'm glad to see so many on that list and there are sure to be more added to it. The freedom of expression through art should not be controlled by the government.
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keikanki
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Came for this, leaving satisfied. Who do these people think they are, tarnishing anime's easy to digest, toddler-friendly image by forcing this prurient trash on innocent children and potential-pedophile adults when it's not even central to the story??? ANN's speech-indifference club (do I even have to name names?) had better mobilize post-haste to ensure the smut merchants on this list never work in this business again! Outrage! |
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chrisc1978
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Love Hina? The girls show nothing, its more of a comedy and light on the ecchi parts. Now if you said Shuffle!, To Love Ru, Girls Bravo, or Strike Witches then yeah those have scenes that woud be banned. Animes like the ova "Kiss x Sis" or the one (I forgot the name) something "Jikan" or whatever the one with the elementary school girls, would be banned outright. |
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Reaper gI
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The example given last time was Doraemon. Anything that shows highschoolers with any fanservice, "sexually provocative" is very broad, this could easily ban 90%+ of all anime. Not to mention what it will do to the fandom losing Comiket and Akihabara (no way in hell they could survive this as they are). |
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GWOtaku
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Wow, that's a lot of opposition. The legislation really must be written much too broadly as-is.
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Haterater
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Poster was being sarcastic. If you read the other thread, there were posters there actually saying the creators who make this, even though the law was very broad and many anime would fall into the catagory, were "sick." I put that as nicely as I could.
So to them, even the creators of Haruhi, DBZ, Sailor Moon, etc. would be labeled "sick" since they all have some elements of characters under 18 in those broad law definitions. |
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falstaff107
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Why does ANN keep stating that this law is about "virtual child porn." This law is NOT specifically about porn and it's also not specifically about characters that are intended to be a depiction of children. It's about a ban on any "sexually provocative" visual representation of a character that "looks" under 18. That has very little specifically to do with "children" or "porn." So why these headlines that imply it does?
Even if this law is enforced sparingly, there is no question it would have a chilling effect on lots of stuff that has nothing to do with depictions of little kids having bad stuff happen to them. The wording of this law is much worse than the current law in the USA which, at least nominally, protects works that have "artistic merit" (although that's problematic for obvious reasons - merit is subjective, and defending a work of art in court means punitive sentencing if you lose). |
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vashfanatic
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All you need to know about how stupid and vague this law must be right there. And as I'm sure Zac would tell you, this is censorship, not Funimation doing some (admittedly stupid) cuts to cover their asses. This is wrong, even if it has good intentions. It is far too broad and is only going to cause a backlog of bureaucracy trying to determine how much of the hundreds (if not thousands) of manga chapters produced every week fit this vague definition. How they even think they'll handle the underground doujinshi circuit is beyond me, especially in the days of the internet. It isn't just wrong, it's unenforceable! |
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