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REVIEW: The Garden of Sinners -recalled-out summer- Blu-Ray




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Videogamep



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:03 pm Reply with quote
It was kind of slow, but I still enjoyed it. I thought the idea of cutting the future was actually kind of interesting. True, the basic concept was the same ability Shiki always uses, but killing something that doesn't actually exist is different enough for me. With anything Kara no Kyokai, the ride may be rough, but the payoff is always worth it. Even here, I can forgive a slow progression if the payoff is good. I also loved that scene at the end where the snow was falling and that one song played. I don't really know how to describe it but it was the exact same song that played at the beginning of movie 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7XcRomgZQs
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One-Eye



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:25 pm Reply with quote
Gabriella Ekens wrote:
The first two-thirds of the film consist of Mikiya's encounter with his sister's precognizant roommate, Shizune Seo, and Shiki's battle against Mitsuru Kamekura, a psychic bomber.

It felt very much like Shizune's only real purpose was to help explain the precognition ability and I was like eh, ok I guess?

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Shiki catches on and defeats him by stabbing the future to death.
This probably has something to do with the "origin" of blah, blah, blah (whatever it was in the movies). However, I agree just stabbing his future sight was a little underwhelming.

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Mikiya and Shiki are the dourest people alive...Unlike Rin, Taiga, Ilya, or Gilgamesh, these people aren't fun to spend time with after hours.

Yes, while I really like the movies this felt more of the same, but less interesting.

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...the well has run dry, and I can only recommend recalled out summer to the most hardcore completionists.

Unfortunately I happen to be one of those.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:29 pm Reply with quote
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The Garden of Sinners -recalled out summer- is less a film and more a potpourri of material that didn't make it into the series proper.


So basically it is all the deleted scenes?
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Fronzel



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:31 pm Reply with quote
So more overblown action-fantasy schlock?
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Videogamep



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:44 pm Reply with quote
Fronzel wrote:
So more overblown action-fantasy schlock?


Actually, there was only one "action" scene and it only lasted about 30 seconds or so. I would hardly call Kara no Kyokai anything close to an action series and I definitely wouldn't call it overblown.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:28 pm Reply with quote
I agree with the reviewer that Garden of Sinners (as well as Fate/Zero et cetera by the same author) are overly verbose, however, there is no way it is possible to grade story as "C" as it is always clever and intricate, even if it can not affect main story line, as in this case.

Aside of the aforementioned issue with the amount of text and over talking, the quality of writing of this author is excellent. Strictly speaking, this should make A- or B+ for story. However, if we are so strict, then most of rating on story in reviews of other anime has to be lowered.
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D-Rock



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 5:27 pm Reply with quote
So recalled out summer is also Future Gospel?
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:50 pm Reply with quote
D-Rock wrote:
So recalled out summer is also Future Gospel?


Yes, though I did not understand (sleepy stupid me) that the last part of it was about couple's daughter, and that the mass murderer became children books author, and that ten years have passed, but I liked anyway. Laughing
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Ambimunch



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:24 pm Reply with quote
This whole film is one long exposition dump. Pretty much one brief action scene with nonstop monologues for the rest of the film.
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Videogamep



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:43 pm Reply with quote
D-Rock wrote:
So recalled out summer is also Future Gospel?


Every movie in this series has two titles. I think it has to do with the pronunciation vs. the literal reading of the kanji.
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Harleyquin



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:41 pm Reply with quote
D-Rock wrote:
So recalled out summer is also Future Gospel?


空の境界 未来福音 = Kara no Kyoukai/Future Gospel

1 volume first printed on 11th November 2011.

Subtitle: the Garden of sinners/recalled out summer

Like all of the novels in this series, this epilogue/side story has an english subtitle to the main one listed above.

I picked up the novel when I found a bookstore selling a reprint some years back, so I got the benefit of being able to check the source with what was being animated. Suffice to say, I'm actually very pleased this got an animated adaptation since some aspects in the book were difficult to visualise.

Seo Shizune is featured in the 6th and gets another mention in the 7th novel, but it's only here that fans find out exactly how she and Kokutou met and the prophecy she gave him regarding his relationship to Shiki. Kuramitsu and the other stories revolving around him are supposed to act as a foil to Seo and her abilities.
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jojothepunisher



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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 12:27 am Reply with quote
After I watched the film, I tried to analyze deeply what the movie was getting at, and I ended up with this slightly embarrassing essay: https://tankyrase.wordpress.com/.

At the time I watched the movie, I was undergoing a crisis in my life similar to what the characters in the movie experienced. The movie motivated me to enjoy life as it is, and not be too stressed out about avoiding undesirable future.
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Chaos Wings



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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 4:10 am Reply with quote
I enjoyed recalled-out summer (for what it is) and can see fans happily adding it to the rest of their collection. Though I do understand why some people might see the film as unnecessary.

Regardless of whether it's superfluous to the rest of The Garden of Sinners film series or not. This release gives me a slight bit of hope that AoA will re-release the other films on Blu-ray in the near future too.
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vanfanel



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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:27 am Reply with quote
I really enjoyed this adaptation. I'm A-OK with epilogues and side stories, as long as they're from the original creator, well-done, and don't do stupid things like taking wrecking balls to well-conceived finales. At their best, they can feel a bit like checking in on old friends. The various "Outlanders" epilogues were great in that regard.

There's one more slim book in this series, but it's presently quite difficult to get hold of, since it was only given away to people who saw this film in the theaters. I'm sure if I paid what people are asking on-line, a mass-market paperback release would be announced the following day.
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