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bs3311
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| Animeking1108 wrote: | | Well, they also got the broadcasting rights to Space Dandy quickly. Fingers crossed. |
Though that reason could have been due to the fact the staff and studio are somewhat related to the creation of Cowboy Bebop. So they can use advertising lines of a cult hit to back that show up. And anything related to the creation of that show, AS would love to have on Toonami.
Sure Testuo Iraki has directed this, but his work on this did not seem to make this any more different except that he likes to keep nearly everything in the manga to be animated with different character facial animations yet the ending was somehow different in a negative way.
Attack on Titan is just too asian friendly to kick off on toonami in the U.S. IMO. And I'll be surprised if I am accused of racism since the themes in this show along with the view of the titan fights are blunt as a rock in a good way for my enjoyment, but probably in a bad way for others.
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ShatteredWorld
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:47 pm
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| bs3311 wrote: |
| Animeking1108 wrote: | | Well, they also got the broadcasting rights to Space Dandy quickly. Fingers crossed. |
Though that reason could have been due to the fact the staff and studio are somewhat related to the creation of Cowboy Bebop. So they can use advertising lines of a cult hit to back that show up. And anything related to the creation of that show, AS would love to have on Toonami.
Sure Testuo Iraki has directed this, but his work on this did not seem to make this any more different except that he likes to keep nearly everything in the manga to be animated with different character facial animations yet the ending was somehow different in a negative way.
Attack on Titan is just too asian friendly to kick off on toonami in the U.S. IMO. And I'll be surprised if I am accused of racism since the themes in this show along with the view of the titan fights are blunt as a rock in a good way for my enjoyment, but probably in a bad way for others. |
lol @ "asian friendly"? It's a series where the majority of the characters don't have Japanese/Asian descent (other than, I believe, Mikasa and that's only ONE character). Even then, it doesn't revolve much around many Eastern ideals/etc (other than the Titans = Giants, Godzilla thing).
Believe me man, I've shown dudes this anime who aren't even INTO anime and they fell head-over-heels for it. If there is ANY anime that's been released in the last few years and has a great amount of casual appeal, it's definitely AoT.
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Miyanoai
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:01 pm
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I'm trying not to have an expected cast because they could go anywhere with, especially since Funi actually has some new VAs in their company now. The only one person I thought of was Armin to be played by Maxey Whitehead. Mainly because I can't imagine him being played by a male, but Maxey has enough of a boyish voice that it would really work.
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bs3311
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:12 pm
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| Shatterdworld wrote: | | lol @ "asian friendly"? It's a series where the majority of the characters don't have Japanese/Asian descent (other than, I believe, Mikasa and that's only ONE character). Even then, it doesn't revolve much around many Eastern ideals/etc (other than the Titans = Giants, Godzilla thing).
Believe me man, I've shown dudes this anime who aren't even INTO anime and they fell head-over-heels for it. If there is ANY anime that's been released in the last few years and has a great amount of casual appeal, it's definitely AoT. |
An asian friendly show does not have to revolve around entirely asian descented characters. I don't think thats what people look for. Besides, this is one of a severe minority of anime that follow the decendent appearence with following physical traits. And the only one we know of trait descent is just Mikasa. And I said that I enjoyed it still except for the story and characters.
The notion of rebelling against teachings or behaviors of old is similar to modern japanese culture due to majority of their society being heavy liberals. And showing the power of humanity against a bigger threat of beings seems to be similar to Super Sentai. Other than character action being similar to japanese where emotions trounce logic. A serious show does not need to be emotional the whole time. Overall, there are heavy implied ones
I'm glad some of your dudes like it. But many of my dudes and even gals just don't even care about it even though the series is supposedly in there demographic acording to the whole notion that shonnen is for old teens or young adults. Given for another notion the west developed is ,"anime is just wierd with crazy plot ideas for porn." in their opinion which can be a case due to so much death scenes where the show or manga tries to immitate Game of Thrones though works in the beginning later backfires making it rather odd. Though my non anime fans seem to enjoy Space Dandy, but thats a comepletely differen genre. Characters is another point. Eren seems to much of a tool to be considered a relatable character like the usual action summer blockbuster movies or drama centric shows characters. And Mikasa is such a poster girl for silent trope characters given that its plausible otaku material. Also that the hint of a relationship with Mikasa and Eren seems incest though their siblings in law. Though Armin is the most well developed character between the three and even should have been the main character IMO, westerners would just call him a pussy.
Deadman wonderland kind of clicked on toonami because of not only its english opening but the concept being similar to criminal punishment along with a grime place the character is placed inside which can be a shout out to Arkum City, a very popular mainstream game. Sure the main fanbase will watch AOT just for the sake of popularity contest, but will non centric anime fans actually watch it and enjoy it causing the mainstream media to find out about it surging its popularity even more to make it more semi mainstream than Fullmetal Alchemist? You say yes, I say probably not.
Though this is my first time saying this though I despise it. I think Funimation will have to make alot of liberalised maketing ideas like they usually do, but more than ever before to give the notion of the show supposedly going the bugs life route but with humans outwitting the titans to make it morally pleasing western wise.
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Miyanoai
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:42 pm
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| bs3311 wrote: |
| Shatterdworld wrote: | | lol @ "asian friendly"? It's a series where the majority of the characters don't have Japanese/Asian descent (other than, I believe, Mikasa and that's only ONE character). Even then, it doesn't revolve much around many Eastern ideals/etc (other than the Titans = Giants, Godzilla thing).
Believe me man, I've shown dudes this anime who aren't even INTO anime and they fell head-over-heels for it. If there is ANY anime that's been released in the last few years and has a great amount of casual appeal, it's definitely AoT. |
An asian friendly show does not have to revolve around entirely asian descented characters. I don't think thats what people look for. Besides, this is one of a severe minority of anime that follow the decendent appearence with following physical traits. And the only one we know of trait descent is just Mikasa. And I said that I enjoyed it still except for the story and characters.
The notion of rebelling against teachings or behaviors of old is similar to modern japanese culture due to majority of their society being heavy liberals. And showing the power of humanity against a bigger threat of beings seems to be similar to Super Sentai. Other than character action being similar to japanese where emotions trounce logic. A serious show does not need to be emotional the whole time. Overall, there are heavy implied ones
I'm glad some of your dudes like it. But many of my dudes and even gals just don't even care about it even though the series is supposedly in there demographic acording to the whole notion that shonnen is for old teens or young adults. Given for another notion the west developed is ,"anime is just wierd with crazy plot ideas for porn." in their opinion which can be a case due to so much death scenes where the show or manga tries to immitate Game of Thrones though works in the beginning later backfires making it rather odd. Though my non anime fans seem to enjoy Space Dandy, but thats a comepletely differen genre. Characters is another point. Eren seems to much of a tool to be considered a relatable character like the usual action summer blockbuster movies or drama centric shows characters. And Mikasa is such a poster girl for silent trope characters given that its plausible otaku material. Also that the hint of a relationship with Mikasa and Eren seems incest though their siblings in law. Though Armin is the most well developed character between the three and even should have been the main character IMO, westerners would just call him a pussy.
Deadman wonderland kind of clicked on toonami because of not only its english opening but the concept being similar to criminal punishment along with a grime place the character is placed inside which can be a shout out to Arkum City, a very popular mainstream game. Sure the main fanbase will watch AOT just for the sake of popularity contest, but will non centric anime fans actually watch it and enjoy it causing the mainstream media to find out about it surging its popularity even more to make it more semi mainstream than Fullmetal Alchemist? You say yes, I say probably not.
Though this is my first time saying this though I despise it. I think Funimation will have to make alot of liberalised maketing ideas like they usually do, but more than ever before to give the notion of the show supposedly going the bugs life route but with humans outwitting the titans to make it morally pleasing western wise. |
So you think because of all that, it can't air on toonami? What about blue exorcist? That seems just as "asian friendly" as you describe it. I've always viewed Toonami to be an extra legal way for western anime fans to watch anime, not for non-anime fans to get into it (though that is a good bonus). And while I'm on the subject, I've gotten quite a few not big anime fans into it so you can't say it applies to everyone.
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jr240483
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:58 pm
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| Miyanoai wrote: | | I'm trying not to have an expected cast because they could go anywhere with, especially since Funi actually has some new VAs in their company now. The only one person I thought of was Armin to be played by Maxey Whitehead. Mainly because I can't imagine him being played by a male, but Maxey has enough of a boyish voice that it would really work. |
huh?? i thought maxey whitehead was a female VA,not a male VA. though playing armin might not work. my best bet to play armin would be dismuke.
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getchman
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:29 pm
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Miyanoai did not say Maxey was male
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Miyanoai
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:49 pm
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| jr0904 wrote: | |
huh?? i thought maxey whitehead was a female VA,not a male VA. though playing armin might not work. my best bet to play armin would be dismuke. |
Getchman is right, I never said she was male. I said I can't imagine Armin being played by a male. Though she's female, Maxey's voice is pretty boyish so I thought it could work. Dismuke could work too though if they go with the notion that he actually went through puberty, lol. (funny how both these actors played Al from Fma).
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enurtsol
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:25 am
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| ShatteredWorld wrote: |
| bs3311 wrote: | |
Attack on Titan is just too asian friendly to kick off on toonami in the U.S. IMO. And I'll be surprised if I am accused of racism since the themes in this show along with the view of the titan fights are blunt as a rock in a good way for my enjoyment, but probably in a bad way for others. |
lol @ "asian friendly"? It's a series where the majority of the characters don't have Japanese/Asian descent (other than, I believe, Mikasa and that's only ONE character). Even then, it doesn't revolve much around many Eastern ideals/etc (other than the Titans = Giants, Godzilla thing). |
Here's some interesting tidbits about Attack on Titan:
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNZO65926080X20C14A1000000/
"Attack on Titan’s studio head talks sequels, keys to the hit anime’s success"
- It’s been a long time since anime has had a hit like Attack on Titan. Over the last several years, Japanese animation has become increasingly self-referential, providing previously unparalleled enjoyment for, and arguably pandering to, its most devoted followers. This came at the cost of accessibility, though, and often shut out new fans in much the same way that the city walls in Attack on Titan were keep rampaging giants outside the city.
Joji Wada (who also goes by George Wada), is the head of Wit Studio, the production house behind the animated hit. In a recent interview with the The Nikkei, Wada talked about the keys to Attack on Titan’s success, as well as dropped some tantalizing hints regarding spin-offs and sequels.
- The show’s international success is certainly a happy development for Wit Studio, but the animation staff didn’t necessarily set out with that as its goal, and instead went with the choices that they, as people born and raised in Japan, felt would be interesting or entertaining. Wada does acknowledge that the team’s subconscious influences may have been at play, though. “Since we were kids, we’ve naturally consumed a lot of American entertainment, and I think part of the show’s global international acceptance comes from reflecting those sensibilities through a uniquely Japanese prism.”
Wada did recognize early on, however, that Attack on Titan’s central themes are universally relatable, particularly its protagonist’s desire to see the world outside his town’s multiple layers of protective walls, even if that means exposing himself to the danger presented by the colossal, man-eating giants his society lives in fear of. Wada likens this to Japanese youths graduating from college and leaving the secure cocoon of their student lives, or the international businessman who is presented with both the wide open possibilities and threats from limitless competitors in the global marketplace.
- Attack on Titan is only Wit Studio’s second project, and its first TV series, so Wada is well aware of the mix of temerity and trepidation that comes with heading off into the unknown.
As could be expected, the studio encountered some hiccups with its first serialized anime, with the animators often spending consecutive nights at the office as they worked to bump up the quality of the show’s visuals, which early on received less than glowing reviews. One night, while slaving away during a typhoon, the power suddenly went out, which presented a problem.
The team made extensive use of digital effects in crafting Attack on Titan’s iconic scenes of its heroes zipping through the air using their three dimensional maneuver gear. No electricity meant no computers though, and one of the animators, having time on his hands, tweeted the studio’s predicament using his smartphone. Almost immediately, fans tweeted back, saying “Come back on, power!” A few hours later, when electricity was restored, Wada was relieved to find that no data had been lost. “I really felt like this is an anime we all made together, even the fans.”
[Ed: How about investing some money for Uninterruptible Power Supply backups?]
- So, given the not entirely conclusive way in which Attack on Titan’s TV run ended last September, can we expect to see more of our titan-slaying heroes? Definitely, and if Wada has his way, we’ll get a generous helping.
“The manga comic the anime is based on is still ongoing, and all of us on the staff are following and loving it,” the studio head gushed. “Eventually, we definitely want to do a sequel. This year, though, we’ve got our hands full producing an anime that will be bundled in a limited edition of the Attack on Titan manga, which tells a different sort of story than what we did in the TV series.”
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ShatteredWorld
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:14 am
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| bs3311 wrote: |
| Shatterdworld wrote: | | lol @ "asian friendly"? It's a series where the majority of the characters don't have Japanese/Asian descent (other than, I believe, Mikasa and that's only ONE character). Even then, it doesn't revolve much around many Eastern ideals/etc (other than the Titans = Giants, Godzilla thing).
Believe me man, I've shown dudes this anime who aren't even INTO anime and they fell head-over-heels for it. If there is ANY anime that's been released in the last few years and has a great amount of casual appeal, it's definitely AoT. |
Sure the main fanbase will watch AOT just for the sake of popularity contest, but will non centric anime fans actually watch it and enjoy it causing the mainstream media to find out about it surging its popularity even more to make it more semi mainstream than Fullmetal Alchemist? You say yes, I say probably not.
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Casuals tend to love characters that want to take revenge upon some force or person or has something to prove (ie: Ganta and Naruto).
The casual crowd also loves shonen/violent type series', hence the great love for Bleach and Naruto, as well as Deadman Wonderland, Space Dandy, Fullmetal Alchemist, etc.
Aspects of the show that aren't too foreign in concept are welcomed as well, such as character names and descriptions taking more of a European/Western stance, having a setting/culture that's farther in Western philosophy than Eastern, etc.
Personally, I just don't see how this will backfire as a crossover title :/
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Brakus
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:52 am
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If they can put this on Toonami in Space Dandy's timeslot, I really think that it can be pushed into the mainstream audience. The original Fullmetal Alchemist was kinda almost mainstream, but I think Attack on Titan can go further than that.
I also hope it premiers on TV before it's on DVD/Blu-ray so we can get more viewers. |
If -- or rather, when -- the show airs on TV here in the States, I hope they can keep the OP (both "Guren No Yumiya" and "Jiyuu no Tsubasa") full-length at 90 seconds, not shortened for time. Given the memetic popularity of "Guren no Yumiya" they should at least take advantage of it.
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Miyanoai
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:58 pm
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| Brakus wrote: |
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If they can put this on Toonami in Space Dandy's timeslot, I really think that it can be pushed into the mainstream audience. The original Fullmetal Alchemist was kinda almost mainstream, but I think Attack on Titan can go further than that.
I also hope it premiers on TV before it's on DVD/Blu-ray so we can get more viewers. |
If -- or rather, when -- the show airs on TV here in the States, I hope they can keep the OP (both "Guren No Yumiya" and "Jiyuu no Tsubasa") full-length at 90 seconds, not shortened for time. Given the memetic popularity of "Guren no Yumiya" they should at least take advantage of it. |
Knowing them they probably won't since it's unheard of to have 90 second openings in the states. They'll probably shorten it the way abridged series do, which is disappointing.
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scriver058
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:03 am
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LOL at looking for reasons why a monster hit with clear crossover appeal won't be shown on cable TV in the U.S. I honestly find it hard to believe that someone, whether it be Toonami or maybe Starz or someone won't try to get broadcasting rights to AoT.
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Agent355
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Attack on Titan is obviously inspired by, or at least eerily similar to, a whole bunch of American action tropes, from military flicks like Full Metal Jacket, to Spider-Man webslinging visuals and zombie movie horror. Combine that with how popular it is *already* with Western kids (how many anime series are picked up by Netflix before they're dubbed? And have you seen any cosplay photos from the past year? Survey Corps members mob every con!) and it would be stupid for Toonami to pass it up. I won't say they definitely will show it, because I've been wrong about shows that they've passed on before (Tiger & Bunny would do so well here, if it got the chance) but it would be colossally BAKA for them to pass on this one.
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