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NEWS: Ghost in the Shell 2 DVD in December


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TMBounty_Hunter



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:47 am Reply with quote
from the GoFish GITS2 message board:

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The UK premiere of Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence will be at Leeds International Film Festival.

The first showing is on Saturday the 6th of November at 8:30pm and the second showing is on Sunday the 7th of November at 6:15pm.

http://www.leedsfilm.com/2004/liff/film/323
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:44 pm Reply with quote
TMBounty_Hunter wrote:
from the GoFish GITS2 message board:

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The UK premiere of Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence will be at Leeds International Film Festival.

The first showing is on Saturday the 6th of November at 8:30pm and the second showing is on Sunday the 7th of November at 6:15pm.

http://www.leedsfilm.com/2004/liff/film/323


Excellent, thanks for the info!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:03 am Reply with quote
If Columbia/Tristar is handling the property at all, they almost certainly will be doing a dub. I can't imagine that they don't want it to make as much money as possible.

I like to have a choice of dub/sub on my DVDs. I won't be purchasing this. I will be purchasing SAC.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:45 pm Reply with quote
LadyBizen wrote:
If Columbia/Tristar is handling the property at all, they almost certainly will be doing a dub. I can't imagine that they don't want it to make as much money as possible.
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Actually it's GoFish/Dreamworks, not Columbia/Tristar. They did the same thing with Millenium Actress, but that is fine by me. I'm not a sure a dub would do the film justice, no matter how good the VAs were. I hope that the lack of a dub is not the only reason you will not be purchasing Innocence.
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LadyBizen



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:38 am Reply with quote
Kazuki-san wrote:
I hope that the lack of a dub is not the only reason you will not be purchasing Innocence.


Actually, it is. For various reasons. The main reason being that I like to have a choice in languages. If I am not given that choice, I will not purchase the movie. I might rent it, but it won't grace my best of shelf.
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kusanagi-sama



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:35 pm Reply with quote
LadyBizen wrote:
Kazuki-san wrote:
I hope that the lack of a dub is not the only reason you will not be purchasing Innocence.


Actually, it is. For various reasons. The main reason being that I like to have a choice in languages. If I am not given that choice, I will not purchase the movie. I might rent it, but it won't grace my best of shelf.


Somehow, I consider that being petty, however, it is your choice. I could care less as to whether or not there happens to be a dub for something. Also, if I ever buy a Chinese movie that was originally done in Manderine Chinese, then dubbed in English, I'll won't watch it dubbed, but in its original language (examples would be most of Jackie Chan's movies that were originally done in his native language - Hidden Dragon, Crouching Tiger being one of them.) It really bugs me to watch something dubbed and seeing their mouths move when they are something in english. Very few anime are prescored (that is, having it where their mouths movements lifelike, and form the correct movements when a word is being said, most anime just do mouthflaps), and if they are (like Akira), the dub doesn't work to well in that case.
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:07 pm Reply with quote
kusanagi-sama wrote:
(examples would be most of Jackie Chan's movies that were originally done in his native language - Hidden Dragon, Crouching Tiger being one of them.)


Actually it's Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.. and it's Chow Yun-Fat in that one.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:35 am Reply with quote
Dreamworks is allergic to dubbed anime. With the exception of Cyborg 009 and Cowboy Bebop: Knocking on Heaven's Door, Columbia-Tristar is too. In other words, they're just lazy/ not willing to spend money on a dub. But that's okay, because I'm in my first year of Japanese and should be immersing myself in the language as often as I can.

If you can't read well, Ghost in the Shell 2 isn't for you. I don't mean to sound insulting, but it is an intensely cerebral film.

As for the release itself, I am dissapointed by the cover art. It makes it look like a mindless action flick (not to mention that they didn't even try to make it look like the first movie). But I still preordered it. Even though I saw it in theatres about a month ago, it's one of those movies you want to watch over and over again. The visuals are breathtaking and the plot is fascinating. Just like the first one, this is a must-have for any fan of science fiction.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:51 am Reply with quote
Your right, the cover is horrendous. But it would have been nice if they took the effort to do a dub, especially with something like Innocence.
Oh, and just to be picky, you forgot Metropolis for Columbia-Tristar. That was dubbed.
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:52 am Reply with quote
Vekou wrote:
With the exception of Cyborg 009 and Cowboy Bebop: Knocking on Heaven's Door, Columbia-Tristar is too. In other words, they're just lazy/ not willing to spend money on a dub.


Well they knew they could sell quite a few more copies of Bebop with a dub, considering it's audience. As popular as GitS is, they know that Innocence is generally for an older audience, and a group within that audience.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:04 am Reply with quote
Kagemusha wrote:
Your right, the cover is horrendous. But it would have been nice if they took the effort to do a dub, especially with something like Innocence.
Oh, and just to be picky, you forgot Metropolis for Columbia-Tristar. That was dubbed.

That's right... it felt like I was forgetting something. Wonder if they'll do a dub for Steamboy (my guess is no).
Kazuki-san wrote:
Well they knew they could sell quite a few more copies of Bebop with a dub, considering it's audience. As popular as GitS is, they know that Innocence is generally for an older audience, and a group within that audience.

Both titles have a huge audience, so in my opinion producing a dub is a no-brainer. But remember, Columbia-Tristar and Dreamworks are not the same. Dreamworks has little or no experience in this, and they seem to have no idea what they're doing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:16 am Reply with quote
Being that they had never done anime, I'm guessing that they handled it like many companys handle foreign films nowadays.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:20 am Reply with quote
Vekou wrote:

Both titles have a huge audience, so in my opinion producing a dub is a no-brainer.


Yes they do, I'm not saying that isn't true, but not everyone that liked the original GitS will like Innocence. From what I've seen, most people that liked it are the type that wouldn't mind sub only.. if you can type people in such a way. (which you can't really) I never liked the dub of GitS anyway, so I would watch it with subs even if there was a dub.

Kagemusha wrote:
Being that they had never done anime, I'm guessing that they handled it like many companys handle foreign films nowadays.


If you mean Dreamworks they did do Millenium Actress, so they have done it before.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:28 am Reply with quote
I just thought of another good reason for a dub: casual fans. The original GitS has alot of casual anime fans, as well as comicbook fans as well as gamers who love it along with a select few other anime titles. While this may not be true, I think having no dub would turn some of these people off. Will it impact the sales? Probobly not, but I'm sure alot of these people would really appreciate a dub.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:18 am Reply with quote
Vekou wrote:
Wonder if they'll do a dub for Steamboy (my guess is no).


Actually, there will be dubbed and subbed screenings in Cinemas, indicating that the DVD release will, infact, be Bi-lingual.

On this topic, I'm not buying the movie, but I'm not buying it because it is (as far as I am concerned) pretencious as hell. But moreso, given the US popularity of the original GitS Movie, and the TV series, it seems silly not to contribute to that little bit of audio continuity.

And it wouldn't have delayed the film any longer than it has already taken for it to be scheduled. in the 4-6 months since the Japanese DVD release and/or Theatrical release, Dreamworks/Gofish could have had the film dubbed, with actors knowing exactly which roles they are meant to play (given that they did the original film AND have had those said characxters revived in SAC). I notice some people saying that not buying this film simply because it's not dubbed is, infact, petty. Wrong. What IS petty, is a company backed by Dreamworks not living up to what would be considered a standard for nearly every other mainstream-appealing anime DVD. Dubs are produced for hundreds of discs a month, you would think in the whole two releases Gofish have, they could make the time/spend the money to make one?
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