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Man.. I'd love to known what the main story of One Piece is, since every arc give 50 new characters to remember then mostly discarded when they move to the next island.

KarlFranz wrote:

Yeah, Kaguya totally has been set up as the final boss. Totally not because Kishimoto accidentally made Madara too strong so he had to make another villain to upstate Madara.

Which was solved by dusting off Kaguya who despite what people think wasn’t created in part 2 as she was mentioned/referred to all the way back in part 1. Who was even more stronger than Madara and couldn’t be defeated under practical circumstances.

KarlFranz wrote:

Oh and let not forget all the story themes and messages that got toss aside along the way and how most side characters got sidelined (who is Tenten anyway?)

I mean let’s not pretend that TenTen ever had as much relevance and importance as Neji & Lee. Like the only memorable thing she did was get squashed off screen by Temari who later joined her village years later. While it is true that Naruto did undercut’s it’s supporting characters by barely using them in the story. It’s been demonstrated that trying to give your supporting characters too much focus in parts of the story where they’re not needed can also be an issue as Bleach infamously demonstrated numerous times.

MaxSouth wrote:

Why did the manga end only after four years? Was it a failure in terms of sales towards the end? Normally, successful projects like this are run for many years, sometimes even for more than a decade. And they do not become bad or dragged just because they are long. Or was it the author's actual intent to make this story relatively short?

You have to be the only person on earth who thinks Demon Slayer, one of the most successful mangas in the last years, that most of the time even surpassed One Piece as the No. 1 manga seller in the world, with the most successful anime movie of all time and with the anime show being milked through the years by released like 10+ episodes at at time, and which ended naturally upon the mangaka's wishes, ended because it was a fAiLuRe iN tErMs oF sAlEs tOwArDs tHe eNd.

I hope youre just a troll, because you can't be this disconnected from reality.

crazy how you put naruto and " a story that was planned for many years ahead and not invented on the spot" on the same sentence, and gives it as an example for a story that did not become bad.
naruto's last arc was horrible writing. the ending was garbage. in fact half way into part 2 of the manga the story started to go down hill, the last arc was just the peak of its bad writing.

Yeah, Kaguya totally has been set up as the final boss. Totally not because Kishimoto accidentally made Madara too strong so he had to make another villain to upstate Madara.

Man.. I'd love to known what the main story of One Piece is, since every arc give 50 new characters to remember then mostly discarded when they move to the next island.

I think the era of super-long running shonen jump hits is mostly over, One Piece notwithstanding.

Why did the manga end only after four years?

Was it a failure in terms of sales towards the end?

Normally, successful projects like this are run for many years, sometimes even for more than a decade. And they do not become bad or dragged just because they are long.

E.g. One Piece and Naruto had the main story planned for many years ahead of writing/drawing the chapters, they were not invented on the spot just to prolong the mangas. (Unlike Bleach where "plot" of a team member being kidnapped is just endlessly repeated and beaten to death, which had a drastic consequence for sales of the manga as it was obviously aimlessly dragged without any actual thought behind this.)

Or was it the author's actual intent to make this story relatively short?

KarlFranz wrote:

Yeah, Kaguya totally has been set up as the final boss. Totally not because Kishimoto accidentally made Madara too strong so he had to make another villain to upstate Madara.

Yes, Kaguya totally has been set up as the final boss. She was contextualized in the beginning. Also see the aforementioned Zetsu character. It was planned this way since forever.

The Not so Chosen One wrote:

MaxSouth wrote: Why did the manga end only after four years? Was it a failure in terms of sales towards the end? Normally, successful projects like this are run for many years, sometimes even for more than a decade. And they do not become bad or dragged just because they are long. Or was it the author's actual intent to make this story relatively short? You have to be the only person on earth who thinks Demon Slayer, one of the most successful mangas in the last years, that most of the time even surpassed One Piece as the No. 1 manga seller in the world, with the most successful anime movie of all time and with the anime show being milked through the years by released like 10+ episodes at at time, and which ended naturally upon the mangaka's wishes, ended because it was a fAiLuRe iN tErMs oF sAlEs tOwArDs tHe eNd. I hope youre just a troll, because you can't be this disconnected from reality.

LOL, not even close. Demon Slayer sold better than One Piece in 2 years in which it released 3 volumes against 20+ boosted ones from the anime's popularity.

One Piece has nearly 500 million copies sold as of now, while Kimetsu no Yaiba has 150 million.

Even comparing the first 23 volumes of One Piece with Kimetsu's 23 volumes total, One Piece still sold more per volume than it (despite selling less per volume as time went on, like any manga ever usually does).

Man... I'd love to known what the main story of One Piece is, since every arc give 50 new characters to remember then mostly discarded when they move to the next island.

Mushrinku wrote:

KarlFranz wrote: Yeah, Kaguya totally has been set up as the final boss. Totally not because Kishimoto accidentally made Madara too strong so he had to make another villain to upstate Madara. Yes, Kaguya totally has been set up as the final boss. She was contextualized in the beginning. Also see the aforementioned Zetsu character. It was planned this way since forever.

Just because you mention a character at some point in your story and then that character show up as the final boss isn't good writing or foreshadowing. The fact is that Kaguya has no barring on the themes of the story, she doesn't represented anything wrong with the world that the characters have to overcome, she is just a big bad that show up at the end and then got defeated. In fact, most of the theme in Naruto got discarded as the series went along to make way for more powerup. How can you plan out a story and forget what your story even about in the first place?

What rock have you been living under if you seriously have to ask if Demon Slayer ended because of bad sales? The manga sold 150 million copies. It's monumental success has been very well documented and everything.

Like "The Not So Chosen One" guy said earlier. I also hope you're just a troll, rather than someone who is just horribly out of touch with reality.

And there's definitely been plenty of Shonen that suffered a serious drop in quality because they ran for far too long. Naruto being one of them.

I agree with the Kaguya point. Terrible character and has no place in the story. However, he didn’t forget what it was about. Many people just have an incredible misunderstanding for what it was about since the beginning.

danpmss wrote:

The Not so Chosen One wrote: MaxSouth wrote: Why did the manga end only after four years? Was it a failure in terms of sales towards the end? Normally, successful projects like this are run for many years, sometimes even for more than a decade. And they do not become bad or dragged just because they are long. Or was it the author's actual intent to make this story relatively short? You have to be the only person on earth who thinks Demon Slayer, one of the most successful mangas in the last years, that most of the time even surpassed One Piece as the No. 1 manga seller in the world, with the most successful anime movie of all time and with the anime show being milked through the years by released like 10+ episodes at at time, and which ended naturally upon the mangaka's wishes, ended because it was a fAiLuRe iN tErMs oF sAlEs tOwArDs tHe eNd. I hope youre just a troll, because you can't be this disconnected from reality. LOL, not even close. Demon Slayer sold better than One Piece in 2 years in which it released 3 volumes against 20+ boosted ones from the anime's popularity. One Piece has nearly 500 million copies sold as of now, while Kimetsu no Yaiba has 150 million. Even comparing the first 23 volumes of One Piece with Kimetsu's 23 volumes total, One Piece still sold more per volume than it (despite selling less per volume as time went on, like any manga ever usually does).

All of this claims are wrong though? DS obliterated OP on a per volume basis throughout 2020 and 2021, it obliterated its all-time record of best selling individual volume from 2011, and one look at its first prints will tell you 2011-2012 was far and away One Piece's peak, so nothing from its early years will compare to DS either.

One Piece #61 sold 3,382,588 in 2011, but DS #23 sold ~5,816,000+ in 2021 (5,171,440 from regular edition, plus 645,000+ from the limited edition's first month - unfortunately didn't make yearly to be precise on its YTD).

Yeah, OP has way more copies overall, but that's also on over 4 times the volumes. And 500M is a worldwide number whereas DS' 150 is japanese only (OP's latest jp number was 400M).

Even if you want to go the "its early volumes will have higher LTD" route, just some simple math will tell you that it's factually not possible. Since the latest volumes are still getting 3M first prints, and a ton of the middle ones ard 60s were getting more, some way more (peaking at over 4M first print), knowing its japanese average only adds up to ~4M per volume, there simply isn't the room for the early OP volumes to match DS' ridicolous average.

And before I have to hear about digital, we know DS' average will far, far outpace OP's given that DS was stated to be the highest digital series for shueisha last year (and this time, no, I don't mean on a per volume average, but overall; OP comes in third, with Kingdom at second).

I suggest you atleast check the numbers before making these claims.

If you believe kaguya wasn't invented on the spot at the end of naruto I'm afraid you're extremely delusional.

How can you plan out a story and forget what your story even about in the first place?