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#854626
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:45 pm
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Well I mean, her nipples are bleeding through her shirt, so...
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CatSword
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:12 pm
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I've seen so much porn on Twitter. That cover is nothing.
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Chrono1000
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:16 pm
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#854626 wrote: | Well I mean, her nipples are bleeding through her shirt, so... |
Well someone at Twitter agrees with you but if nipple outline is where they draw the line for censorship they might as well change the Twitter terms of service to include the phrase "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here".
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nargun
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:56 pm
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AksaraKishou wrote: | Even i, an English Major (not native), didn't know that people were using "they" nowadays and thought anyone who used it probably didn't know jack of grammar. I did question someone on Discord later on as to why they were using they..."you dissing gender neutral pronouns" spiel ensues and i stand corrected. Don't use them either way tbh, cause it triggers the living hell out of my brain. Takes a bit longer to ascertain the gender of the person in question, but i prefer to use the proper one than to have random "they"'s in the middle of a text.
So yeah, probably an innocent question (or maybe not, what do i know... <.<). |
As a second-language learner, you should probably be more cautious about telling first-language speakers they're speaking their own language wrong; the full linguistic picture is near-inevitably far more complex than can be fitted into a second-language classroom.
[for example! english grammar can vary noticeably between dialects; singular they is used far more frequently in my own australian dialect than in the north american forms that most ANN writers grew up in. Unless you know these sorts of differences your chances of correctly correcting someone who's been speaking the language all their life are... not ideal.]
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samuelp
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:33 pm
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The real scandle here is that this author is spending $500 of their own money to promote their book which is being published by Kadokawa.
Like, one of the whole points of getting published by a publishing house is so they do promotion and pay for it, no?
Also twitter japan clearly has some damn nice offices. Not surprisingly.
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AksaraKishou
Joined: 16 May 2015
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Location: End of the World
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:39 pm
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nargun wrote: |
AksaraKishou wrote: | Even i, an English Major (not native), didn't know that people were using "they" nowadays and thought anyone who used it probably didn't know jack of grammar. I did question someone on Discord later on as to why they were using they..."you dissing gender neutral pronouns" spiel ensues and i stand corrected. Don't use them either way tbh, cause it triggers the living hell out of my brain. Takes a bit longer to ascertain the gender of the person in question, but i prefer to use the proper one than to have random "they"'s in the middle of a text.
So yeah, probably an innocent question (or maybe not, what do i know... <.<). |
As a second-language learner, you should probably be more cautious about telling first-language speakers they're speaking their own language wrong; the full linguistic picture is near-inevitably far more complex than can be fitted into a second-language classroom.
[for example! english grammar can vary noticeably between dialects; singular they is used far more frequently in my own australian dialect than in the north american forms that most ANN writers grew up in. Unless you know these sorts of differences your chances of correctly correcting someone who's been speaking the language all their life are... not ideal.] |
Oh, no! I never told anyone they were wrong! I just asked why it was being used since i started seeing it with increased frequency these days.
As yeah, when it comes to your example, you're probably right. I only studied more or less British English, America English and South African English. Heck, even with natives teaching me and with me having more contact with English than my own native language (should probably rectify that tbh), the full picture of a language almost never comes 100% across unless you live at least a handful of years in the middle of that culture/country.
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R315r4z0r
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:01 pm
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TUSF wrote: |
Angel Investor wrote: | Any particular reason why Kisaragi is referred to as "they" in this article? |
Any particular reason you're against someone using a neutral pronoun to refer to someone? |
Well, for starters, it's rude. :\
If you're not sure, then don't use a pronoun. Refer to them by their title, in this case "the author."
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Paulo27
Joined: 22 Jan 2015
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:03 pm
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R315r4z0r wrote: |
TUSF wrote: |
Angel Investor wrote: | Any particular reason why Kisaragi is referred to as "they" in this article? |
Any particular reason you're against someone using a neutral pronoun to refer to someone? |
Well, for starters, it's rude. :\
If you're not sure, then don't use a pronoun. Refer to them by their title, in this case "the author." |
lol "it's rude"
If anything it's more polite than calling people "he" and "she".
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jesusalcala11
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:25 pm
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CatSword wrote: | I've seen so much porn on Twitter. That cover is nothing. |
A person can post adult content to Twitter if they mark it as adult content. Not properly labeling adult content leads to bans. My assumption with this case is that someone or a bot misreported the cover.
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configspace
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:10 pm
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Kadmos1 wrote: | A Google Image Search of this title lead to a FB page posting some the in-novel pics. It's a harem, so "all-ages" isn't exactly correct. |
In japan all-ages includes anything risque and non-adult as I understand it. I do not know about light novels, but that is the case for visual novels and all other non-CERO games (indie and PC; even then legally speaking CERO rated stuff is still all-ages) and anime and manga. Even ToLoveRu-Darkness, published in a shounen magazine, is technically all-ages. Even for properties actually aimed at older kids (but not children/kodomo) like One Piece, you do see risque material, with Oda being frank in an interview right in the magazine about liking boobs.
Anyways, one possibility is that the review board for advertising or the reviewer in question is from the American office and decided hmm.. anime girl, boobs, yep, it's advertising adult material. The cover itself doesn't have to be adult-only in nature, but using a safe image to advertise for what they think is adult according to their standards is also banned. Think about how the tagging for "adult" or mature or offensive content includes properties that are actually non-adult when sold commercially outside of twitter.
BUT AFAIK no adult content or even remotely adult is allowed at all for the sponsored postings/ads. This is different than the personal individual tweets which require tagging it at most (although since Twitter got more strict, some Japanese twitterers now wholesale mark everything by default as mature/offensive media)
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Afezeria
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:12 pm
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Too bad for this author but then again, I couldn't help but to think "Oh, look. Another harem work. That's cute".
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Fenrin
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:16 pm
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R315r4z0r wrote: |
TUSF wrote: |
Angel Investor wrote: | Any particular reason why Kisaragi is referred to as "they" in this article? |
Any particular reason you're against someone using a neutral pronoun to refer to someone? |
Well, for starters, it's rude. :\
If you're not sure, then don't use a pronoun. Refer to them by their title, in this case "the author." |
And how, pray tell, is it rude? It's a conveniently neutral pronoun that can be used when there is no way of ascertaining the gender of the person in question. As a writer myself, it can be damn useful when you're talking about someone and don't want to keep repeating their name or title ad nauseam.
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FD2Raptor
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:53 pm
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From the Article:
Seeing that the thread is somehow devolving into grammar argument...
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:32 pm
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@configspace: one thing I like about the U.S. is that we have more (somewhat) clear-cut age ratings. For series like "To-Love-Ru Darkness," I think that should be put in a seinen mag. Honestly, I do think Japan could better at their age ratings. I get that I am imposing Western values on Japan, but I think certain series should be off limits to minors.
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Joshua Zarate
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:45 pm
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Afezeria wrote: | Too bad for this author but then again, I couldn't help but to think "Oh, look. Another harem work. That's cute". |
So... what? If the cover happens to belong to a certain genre, it makes it less wrong?
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