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luis.couto.56
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catch this you haters
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Nico_Astray
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Of course it was cancelled. If health was an issue, they would have delayed the finale. Just look at Hunter x Hunter and D.Gray-Man. If health were an issue, those two would have been cancelled years ago. |
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xasli#879653
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no it wasnt cancelled do your research if you want, kubo decided to end it there because he couldnt keep going with his injury which was a broken ligament in his arm, it was rushed due to kubos and shonen jump decissions it want cancelled, and as kubo already stated he isnt the one to like to have breaks before concluding his work.
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AiddonValentine
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Taken on its own the final chapter is fine. It's a basic "distant finale but hinting the adventure never ends" thing. The problem is everything leading up to it was a mess and so many plot points were dropped or unaddressed it was maddening, which is where a lot of the criticism comes from. |
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Nonaka Machine Gun B
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No, it's table-of-contents placement rankings remained within the Top 5 range, and tankobon sales for the bulk of the Arrancar arc hovered in the 600K range on their first week. BLEACH was not cancelled; I feel like that is obvious to anyone paying attention, and I'm not trying to "dispute" this, but if I don't say this, people will tout the opposite with no counter, so to the untrained eye, it looks like somebody knows what they are talking about. It's like if somebody came in and said "skunks can be found in the color magenta" and then nobody said anything, and just let the dumb float in the air. I'm surprised there wasn't an announcement when it hit 100 mil. |
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CrowLia
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You say this yet provide precisely zero (0) proof or evidence to back your claim, which makes your comment seem closer to the one claiming magenta skunks exist. Bleach was canceled, as was Toriko which had also been rushed in the months preceding its finale, both fallen from grace has-been hits that no one was reading anymore and consistently ranked at the bottom of the magazine's poll. Here's a list of the order of publication in the magazine (which although never explicitly confirmed, has been a relatively reliable source of ranking results, with the series that underperform being left at the back) of one week of every month of 2016 prior to Bleach's cancellation. In all of them, Bleach is in the bottom 5, and all other series that were ranking that low were also cancelled during that year, with just a few exceptions reaching their natural conclusion January February March April May June July Last one before Bleach's final two chapters, which by having commemorative color pages were automatically bumped up in the magazine's lineup Another thing that shows WSJ had already abandond Bleach was the fact that it didn't receive the opening cover and color pages, not once in the year before it ended, and it barely got one or two center colors in that same timeframe -color pages usually go to popular series, which is why HeroAca and One Piece receive them all the time. The year it ended marked Bleach's 15th anniversary, but whilst One Piece had a full year celebration with numerous events, Bleach's was harldy acknowledged until literally the last chapter was published. Ichigo was replaced from the "Top 3" illustrations ever since it started falling off the public's favor, and is now rarely included even in illustrations that show dozens of Jump's most iconic characters. It was also well known that Kubo had a rocky relationship with the editorial staff, and that the Editor in chief wasn't Bleach's greatest fan I don't know why Bleach fans are so reluctant to acknowledge that the series was canceled. There are mountains of evidence that prove WSJ had long abandoned Bleach and Kubo. Getting canceled and thus awfully rushed makes the atrocious final arc -especially the last 20 chapters or so- more defendable than claiming it ended on its own terms |
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xasli#879653
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again bleach was not cancelled, again it was a decission from both kubo and shonen jump to end it sooner than kubo wanted because of his health issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWmWUwjsMWQ https://twitter.com/i/moments/926914353680568321 https://www.tbsradio.jp/197344 there is your evidence. bleach in its final years always ranked fine, and majority of time was in the middle. yeah it did recieved a lot of color pages and lead covers, and one cover magazine, stop making stuff up, shonen jump still cared about bleach, and if it really abandoned like you wrongly think, then how it released two novels explaining some questions by kubo and a live action that could improve its situation. one piece is shonen jumps biggest and most poular series, of course the marketing of it is big, that doesnt mean anything about bleach and yes even before the ending bleach was given recognition, doesnt mean anything ichigo is still one of shonen jumps iconic characters, the reason that naruto luffy and goku are more iconic and popular, has anything to with ichigo when his image is still on the boards on jump festa and other events, thats bs that some people invented as excuse, kubo had a normal relationship with his editors, only disagreeing with some things in how they handled their work, do you have proof that the editor in chief ever said that? bleach fans know that bleach isnt perfect and is flawed but its still a good series, again it wasnt cancelled, its diffeent when you claim things that are not truth, as there are mountains of evidence that prove WSJ didn't abandoned Bleach and Kubo. it wasnt cancelled, yes the rushing made the climax bad, but not the conclusion and the epilogue, the final fight and the information and characters are the problem, especially the last chapters which were truly the rushed began. no it didn't ended on its own terms because kubo had more to be done but he couldnt due to health conditions, but it did ended the way he always wanted to. |
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CrowLia
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I literally just gave you a whole year's worth of evidence of how Bleach was objectively, factually not ranking fine in its last year. Would you please show me "a lot" of color pages that Bleach received in its last year? You're the one making stuff up. Given that your argument boils down to "because I say so, I see no point in continuing this discussion with someone so intellectually dishonest. |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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^ More like delusional. It's pretty clear that Bleach was cancelled and that Tite was given plenty of time to end it gracefully, but chose to believe that it was all a bluff and then had to abruptly shut it down at the end. Some people refuse to believe this, though, which is why "Fan" is short for "Fanatic".
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Agent355
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Thanks for posting that Twitter translation of Kubo's radio interview; very interesting. |
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Raijin1983
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Bleach manga was cancelled. like katekyo Hitman Reborn manga. shueisha stopped caring for the manga and they still don't care. shueisha now cares about BnHA, Black Clover, and The Promised Nederland. Bleach character has been removed from WSJ magazine cover since years ago. in the 2017 jump festa magazine there's no Bleach character. again. the other one posted a video of one of the most blind fanboys of Bleach that spouts nonsense from his blind fanboyism as evidence that Bleach manga wasn't cancelled. hahahahahahahaha. that guy said that Kubo's new 1-shot manga is gonna be Bleach without any info at all. he just pulled it straight from his ass and pass it as a fact. this is how much of a blind fanboy he is. can't take that guy seriously at all
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BadNewsBlues
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As mentioned if Kubo's health was a problem continuing the series rather than taking a break makes little sense. All and all that doesn't change the fact that Kubo did a lot of questionable stuff from the tail end of the Soul Society arc to the end that affected it's quality. |
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xasli#879653
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and i just gave you enough reasons to conclude that those last rankings meant nothing because bleach was not cancelled, want to see it, go see the manga in its last year it actually recieved plenty of color pages, im not making stuff up, those are hardly what my arguments stand for, i say what i have seen, and the evidence i provided, you if that is what you think then be my guess.
there is no delusion here, again bleach was not cancelled hence the evidence i already provided, that "ending time" in the end they would have let kubo end the ways according to pacing but everything was rushed due that he decided to end it sooner due to his health conditions, a bluff its to say that kubo decided to end it for some kind of revenge but it its not.no people already know what happened, you mean like any other fan out there? bleach was not cancelled again, nobody knows about katekyo hitman reborn since no further announcements were made by the author, but in case of bleach, there have been refutals, yes because those are biggest series right now, of course those are the most important right now they deserve recognition, after all bleach ended, no when bleach was still on the magazine plenty of the characters were features in the characters group up, specially ichigo, yes there was inside the facilities, were a lot of boards with ichigo on it, the way you see the youtuber may be your opinion doesnt change that he said some valid stuff, like again bleach was not cancelled. that is his opinion but i seriously believe his one shot would be a new work, and for the best the future of a new series by him. yes and that is called the lost agent arc, no it actually doesnt, there are some major problems to take a big hiatus specially in the posittion bleach has, and in the end that is how kubo worked. |
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CrowLia
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Since you asked, I actually did go see the manga in its last year, the last 52 chapters of its publication and yes, you are definitely making stuff up and no, you're not bringing any evidence to support your claim. From chapter 634 to its finale 686,, from July 2015 to August 2016 Bleach received color pages in the following chapters: Opening color: Ch. 640, 686, total 2 Center color: Ch. 680, 685, total 2 That's right, your "plenty" of color pages amounts to a whopping amount of.... *drumroll* FOUR -and two of them were for its final chapters, so they hardly count as WSJ showing appreciation for Bleach. Over the same time period, Haikyu received color pages in 13 occassions, thrice as many as Bleach (Center 167, 170, 179, 187, 194, 203, 204 + Opening: 175, 183, 189, 198, 209, 213). On average, Haikyu received a color page once every four weeks, whereas Bleach got one every thirteen weeks Bleach was abandoned by WSJ and cancelled, Kubo didn't have a good relationship with his editors and he was forced to rush the finale, and now Bleach as a property is dead and buried, that's all. |
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xasli#879653
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again Bleach was not cancelled, as i already stated in the evidence before, thats a bluff thats an excuse that people like you put to excuse the rushed ending, seriously did you even watched the links i sent the rushed happened due to kubos health issues nothing more, bleach is over not dead and neither buried, if shonen jump wouldnt give a crap about bleach the novels wouldnt be out, or even try to not see what would happen with the future live action. what does it have to do that another series with more popular votes in the rankings had to do with anything, people werent voting for bleach in the polls, doesnt mean there is no people who doesnt cares about it, even if they were four which is something, you still believe something that is not truth.
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