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lostrune
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Most of which appear to be uploaded by us Americans  Pixiv really boomed with Americans uploading their stuff there. I can't search for One Piece or Naruto art without getting the same hits as the stuff I see on DeviantArt. 
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GracieLizzy
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Yeah that's a fair enough point but just saying saying "no one" cared about it until G4 is a bit unfair. Plus whilst for the majority of pre-Friendship is Magic fans and Bronies/Pegasisters there is no animosity at all there is a know phenomenon against a minority on either side who either (in the case of Bronies) are really, really, jerky about pre-FiM stuff (though "G3's cartoons suck, and 3.5 is even worse" is a consensus) or on the side of older Ponyfans that they've had their fandom usurped. To be utterly honest? Even though I am a fan of G4 onwards myself? I kinda feel more for the older Ponyfans for similar reasons to what Zac said about the fandom overtaking a kids cartoon and porn of it and other things cropping up. We've already mentioned why that's regrettable from the standpoint of it potentially scaring off actual child fans, but for the adult and largely female prior fanbase what they saw as "their thing" has been reworked into something now associated with male fans and with that has come a certain amount of porn and other male-fan-base lead quirks. For example, if someone wants to write a romantic fanfic (and not necessarily porn) mare-mare (girl-girl) is way more accepted than stallion-stallion (guy-guy)... in fact it's probably more accepted than mare-stallion. I know this is partly down to it being a very female led cast but still guy-guy especially is generally met with at least some resistance. To be honest I've never really been a person for shipping fics anyway, but it is a noted aspect of the fandom now as TV Tropes has mentioned. Now for the most part as I said before Bronies/Pegasisters and older fans actually get along and you can see some of the older fan creativity especially around toy customization having an effect on Bronies as well. However it was a fandom formerly female led that is now male led and I have to say as a woman it is kinda, I dunno... sad in a small way that that has happened? I am trying not to come off as a doing a battle of the sexes thing here because I hate those anyway and am all for equality but it is nice to come across a largely female fandom for something sometimes as usually only yaoi and bishonen series get those. |
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DomonX2
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Ratings=/= popularity. If that was the case, Escaflowne would be one of Sunrise's/Bandai's most profitable shows(at least in Japan), while Gundam 00 would be a bomb and we all know it's the other way round. |
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Fencedude5609
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Your point would be enhanced if you had used shows that weren't separated by over a decade. |
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ConanSan
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DomonX2
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Your point would be enhanced if you knew anything about Japan's birthrate. |
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DomonX2
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Your point would be enhanced if you knew anything about Japan's birthrate. |
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Fencedude5609
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Holy non-sequitur Batman! Your point is muddled, you're close to what is actually the case, but by choosing those two shows you are hiding the actual effect you are going for. |
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ConanSan
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As the show is want to say; anything can happen in the next half hour. I mean Hell, TMNT (The 80's one) was a huge mega-hit and the first two seasons of 2003 drew some decent numbers from what I hear.
That said, if they could break though the two season thing, that'd be great. Seriously, even RTD Doctor Who didn't get past season 2 for some bizzare reason. |
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DomonX2
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No, I stated a fact. Escaflowne bombed in Japan, despite having average ratings of 5.2% and a highest rating of 9.2% and only did well in South Korea, USA(it outsold Gundam Wing on home video) and other countries, while Gundam 00 got average ratings of 4.85% and peaked at 6.1%, while Season 2 of Gundam 00 peaked at 6.3%, which is pathetic, but it did well via merchandise. |
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Fencedude5609
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It also sold a ton of DVDs. And thats one of the key points here, Escaflowne was before the big shift in TV anime to focusing more on disc sales than on ratings/general merch. Sure, general merch is still important, but not the be-all end-all. Also, I'd like to see your cites for Escaflowne bombing in Japan. Data for that period is harder to come by than for modern shows, and there is a lot of misinformation going around. (see also: Cowboy Bebop). |
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dandelion_rose
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I'm actually annoyed that Pixiv started accepting art from people outside of Japan. I knew they were starting an English edition, but I thought the art would be separate, not merged. I go to Pixiv to know what art styles are popular in Japan (which is significantly interesting and attractive enough to have an exclusive site of its own), not to see the same stuff on Deviantart. |
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Fencedude5609
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The majority of stuff on Pixiv has always been exactly the same as the majority of stuff on Deviantart. Absolute crap. |
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dandelion_rose
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I've generally been pleased with what I can dig up on both Deviantart and Pixiv (I guess it depends on what you are searching for). 'Quality' aside, I do look to Pixiv to know what styles or subcultures are popular among Japanese artists. Edit: To make this post a little more relevant to My Little Pony -- if someone says 'look, there's quite a big My Little Pony fan subculture in Japan, check out the fanart on Pixiv' and most of the numbers are people who aren't Japanese or living in Japan who are submitting artwork, it gives someone a skewed idea of how popular a franchise is in Japan. It's not something that is of world-shattering consequence, but I do find it just a little annoying. |
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Soundmonkey44
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@Gracie: Oh don't worry about starting about a battle of the sexes or anything.
 . I agree with pretty much everything you said.
I will say though, personally, and again this is just me, but I kind of like it when gender walls are broken down, in either Direction, again I can see where your coming from with the whole, men taking it away from the kids and the women that originally grew up with it. But at the same time it is a good way to help grow the franchises community in general. Just like we are slowly seeing more women getting into Comics, video games, etc. Call me silly, but I actually look forward to the day when any nerdy interest can be considered gender neutral and male and female fans of anything, be it anime, ponies, comics, games, etc can all sit down together & have a fun time! I don't think any one should be excluded from any hobby merely based on their gender or age *Even if by societal norms certain things will always be considered odd or creepy* As long as their hobby isn't hurting anyone and its not obsessive to the point you have to put them in the looney bin, it's s'all good. *Again I realize how cheesy and overly optimistic that is, but yeah* And yeah it is sad that a small sect of the fanbase draws Pony R34, but again thats as the rule states, for everything, no franchise be it aimed at children, teens, adults, males, females, what have you is safe *heck there probably some crazies that draw that stuff for dog food commercials* The best we can do is hope eventually as the fan base gets older, like with anime or sonic, the amount coming out significantly shrinks *or the search engines get a lot better at blocking it out* But yeah, I too feel kinda bad for the original fans that now have to deal with us Bronies, but i'm sure eventually some sort of peace can be brokered between the two.
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I have never seen Spongebob on the weekly Japanese ratings ANN.com posts. I think that article is misinformed or lying. 
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