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Answerman - Why Is Japan's Population Declining?

There is something kind of hysterically absurd about people with cutesy anime avatars having a serious discussion advocating things like anti-miscegenation and eugenics.

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From my personal perspective, like everybody else has probably mentioned in this thread, bringing in foreigner to the heavily homongenous or whatever Japan in an instant would cost more harm than good. The Japanese valued their cultures, foods and all that meant something to them by a long mile and having something that seemed alien to them will just caused panic and issues. Of course, not every Japanese is gonna remain close minded to new things but if there's ever a need to bring more immigrants there, it need to start from the lowest scale so that everyone can get comfortable in embracing a new chapter. I feel like I wanted to say more but I don't really know how to gather those info in my head.

Oh don't get me wrong. Serious discussions about political topics on anime forms often get ridiculous regardless of political views. It's just that the borderline fascism and eugenics in this thread has made it go to the point of parody. It's like the perfect microcosm of internet clusterf****s in one sitting!

That is how USA immigration was suppose to be after 1990 Immigration Act.
But reality got in the way as more visa overstayers and illegals continued to cross the southern border continued to occur with impunity during the 90s.

Consider your country lucky because your system was built from the ground up so that illegals can't ever set up presence. Too many ways to get screwed as an illegal there - your system designed to do exactly that.

So, Japan's population is decreasing, eh? Look, tell ya what I'm willing to do. If the Japanese government will pay my way and give me an incredibly generous stipend, I am prepared to breed with the comelier Japanese frauleins. I'm 6 foot 6, so beyond merely saving the population from a disastrous decline, I'd be injecting some much needed verticality into the gene pool.

Please - no need to thank me.

The main reason why population reduction is a bad thing is the macroeconomic issue previously mentioned: wealth transfer. Japan, like the US, is set up to tax away large portions of the healthy working aged-citizen's income. This money goes to the government, which is typically run by the rich, the powerful, and the old, where it is then spent in ways that are advantageous to said groups. Basically, things like Social Security are Ponzi Schemes, which require ever-more money from those near the bottom of the pyramid. This is a problem only if the numbers near the bottom start to shrink (making the pyramid shaped less like a pyramid). Should that happen, the status quo becomes disrupted, and those at the top don't like that.

Anyway, that's the main reason population-reduction is bad from an economic view. But, what about an *environmental* view? Does anyone *not* think that the world is overpopulated? Because it is. And yes, it is in Japan, too. How much does it cost to buy some tiny space to live in there? Lots! That's because there is only so much land to go around for all of those people. All of those people... oh, wait! But population-reduction is bad! No, it isn't. Until we can keep our populations at levels that our resources can sustain, we are going to destroy ourselves in the long run. You can try to buy your way out of it by importing stuff, but that only works until the world's overall resource consumption gets so bad that countries end up fighting over who gets what. That *will* happen if we don't do something about it, and that something is to maintain sustainable population levels.

I don't think what Japan is experiencing is a bad thing at all. Quite the opposite. And if the Africans would learn not to have kids they can't afford to raise, we'd be well on our way to achieving a sustainable population level on a global scale.

Blood- wrote:

So, Japan's population is decreasing, eh? Look, tell ya what I'm willing to do. If the Japanese government will pay my way and give me an incredibly generous stipend, I am prepared to breed with the comelier Japanese frauleins. I'm 6 foot 6, so beyond merely saving the population from a disastrous decline, I'd be injecting some much needed verticality into the gene pool. Please - no need to thank me.

Yo, I don't mind going down to Japan and helping them with their population problem, if you get what I mean. But from your comment, sounds like you have a specific interest in the Japanese frauleins. Why don't you earn your way to your paradise rather than relying on some unreliable government to ship you over? Learn to speak the language, it ain't that hard if you try, ya?

On the point of multiculturalism, I personally think it's a good thing. Diversity is an evolutionary wellspring for introducing potentially beneficial customs and points of view to the cultural genepool. Japan seems to have become pretty stagnant culturally as of late, perhaps to the point of being dangerously self-destructive. Having lived in and visited different places around the world, I think the nice thing about being exposed to different cultures is that it can broaden your perceptions on different acceptable ways to live, and make you more open-minded to questioning and adjusting your own cultural values. Staid tradition can be stifling, and it's good to be able to adapt and improve. Some cultural luminaries in Japan, particularly in the anime industry, have said that the culture has become insular to the point of being practically inbred, and in that state you can't help but wonder at its effects on the overall population.

My question is, when has clinging to traditional beliefs ever worked out positively for anyone? Japan's first economic boom came about by adopting Western policies for industry, we could argue that their current recession is due to clinging to that too greatly.

Another victim of the "multicultural" cool-aid...

Paiprince wrote:

Another victim of the "multicultural" cool-aid...

Ugh. There are pros and cons to immigration. For some countries it works well, in others not so much. It is not the answer for every country. There are reasonable arguments to be made on both sides of the issue. But acting as if immigration is INHERENTLY a negative thing in all cases is just as narrow-minded as claiming it is always a positive. Open your mind.

In part because Japan doesn't take too kindly to those that aren't Japanese, they have a notorious history with this as Mohawk mentioned. Diversity is in no way shape or form bad unless you're a traditional minded person who of course hates change.