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GATSU
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Can't wait for this to turn into a legal nightmare. But hey, states' rights only apply to gun-waving skinheads who shoot up abortion clinics.
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Megiddo
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I strain to see how this is related to anime...
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GATSU
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It's simple. If they don't like porn, imagine what they'll do to people who upload scantalations of Tenjo Tenge.
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Splitter
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Yeah, there's nothing in that article that relates to anime, unless we're supposed to connect obscenity laws, but that's a real stretch. |
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Megiddo
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Honestly, reading about something of real women digesting bodily fluids is not something that I come to ANN to read.
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GTO Neko
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You'll have to take into consideration about the brouhaha that occurred with the one guy in Iowa (I think) that was jailed for having loli-artwork, which in turn carries over into how the FL court is taking the law into their own hands with different "obscenities". |
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Mad_Scientist
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What... the... ^&*^?!
This ruling is absurd. Obscenity laws are vague and problematic enough as it is, something like this will just make things even more insane. And this does relate to anime quite a bit because all the controversy regarding explicit anime content lately. A ruling like this could affect certain anime stuff in the future. |
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jyuichi
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That's an image you created completely separate from the article
Considering how much obscenity rulings (e especially net related) DO affect anime this is not an unreasonable item to note on ANN as a small daily brief. If you want to whine about non-anime coverage how about all those ridiculous manga news items? I come here to read about anime </sarcasm> |
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Megiddo
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No, I just read the sources as well to get more information.
This is what I don't see has to do with anime. These things depict actual women being FORCED to do this crap. It's completely different. |
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Mad_Scientist
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Irrelevant. This ruling applies to all content. That's the nature of rulings like this. EDIT: To elaborate a bit more about what I mean, let's for the moment assume that this ruling remains standing, and more than that, gets applied nationally (apparantly a ruling in a different district disagreed with this ruling, so the issue isn't fully settled just yet. But assume it is.) That would mean that if one community, anywhere in the country, were to find, say, Elfen Lied obscene... guess what, it becomes illegal, even if 99% of the country doesn't find it obscene. Now, I doubt something like Elfen Lied would be ever actually found obscene, but a lot of Hentai out there might be affected by this. Last edited by Mad_Scientist on Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:01 am; edited 4 times in total |
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Megiddo
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I guess those who are distributing loli-hentai via the net better be careful. |
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jyuichi
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Exactly, you didn't read it on ANN. Knowing it was about actual pornography you chose to read an outside site. Separate from ANN's article.
Forced isn't the best word here, they ACTED forced. They were paid to preform these acts. It's their job. If they were actually forced this would be an entirely different issue. The main issue of the ruling is how the Court could put a CA man into jail for not conforming to FL law. As anime and even manga move towards online distribution letting any given community punish others on any material possibly assessable in their community is ridiculous. Imagine sites starting to geoblock not only by country but by state or even county? This is a bad precedent. |
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Crystalyn
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My apologies for not pointing out more clearly in the article how this is relevant to anime and manga. I'll give two quick examples: Take, for example, the Handley case, where a man is soon to be sentenced for violating obscenity laws for manga he purchased depicting children engaging in sexual acts. Say Handley lived in an area affected by this ruling, and he bought his "obscene" manga from a vendor in New York. Even if, by New York standards, his purchase did not violate obscenity laws, because it is considered "obscene" in Handley's area, the New York vendor could be put on trial for a crime. Or, say, a woman living in Massachusetts creates an explicit doujinshi of her favorite manga, and sells it on e-bay to someone in Orlando. Because the "community" in Orlando sees this material as obscene even if a similar "community" in the artist's state does not, the doujinshi artist can be dragged to Orlando and put on trial. I hope this clears things up a bit. Last edited by Crystalyn on Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:20 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Shay Guy
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1th?
Thing is, the "natural" state for online distribution is global. Somewhere, there is a community that considers Gurren Lagann (episode 6), Strike Witches (!pants), Hayate the Combat Butler (crossdressing), Kino's Journey (cannibalism) to be obscene. What if you don't even know the community exists? |
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Haterater
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And this is what scares me. This will cut advances in how people get to view things from around the world tremendously. I would hate for the internet to become more like TV. |
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