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Kalessin
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:23 pm
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chrisc1978 wrote: | Strike Witches could couse a conflict of interest with parents. Funimation selling young kid shows, and there are some people saying Strike Witches is for pedo’s |
Funimation sells a whole range of shows - including a number of shows that are not appropriate for young children. They also label their releases with age ratings, so if a parent buys Strike Witches simply because they think that Funimation sells kids shows, then they're just ill-informed. I really don't think that that's going to be a general issue. Strike Witches is bound to be labeled as TV-MA and that should be plenty of indication for any parent who's paying attention that they shouldn't be buying Strike Witches for their kids. They won't have to know anything about Strike Witches (or even anime in general) to know that much. All they have to do is read the box.
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chrisc1978
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:46 pm
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Amazon does not list ratings often for animes. Just look at the image of Strike Witches, and tell me it does not scream kid show.
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Anymouse
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:55 pm
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It is interesting that shows such as this or Kodomo no Jikan ran on late night telivision, but Hetalia could not. This shows the morals of the postmodern age.
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Charred Knight
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:14 pm
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It had to do with some Koreans getting pissed off at how Korea was portrayed in the manga, being an annoying character.
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Kalessin
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:42 am
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chrisc1978 wrote: | Amazon does not list ratings often for animes. Just look at the image of Strike Witches, and tell me it does not scream kid show. |
A valid point. However, if a parent buys a show for their kids without knowing anything about it, they're just asking for trouble. There's plenty of anime out there whose promotional artwork might make you think that it's for kids (especially if you think that "cartoons are for kids") but which is most definitely not for kids. It would be a fairly simple matter to look into Strike Witches and determine that it's inappropriate for children - not to mention that not only would reviews on Amazon make that clear but how likely is someone to just bump into Strike Witches while browsing Amazon? Usually, you run into unknown shows like that by browsing in a brick and mortar store - where the rating would be clearly visible.
Strike Witches is far from the first anime series that is inappropriate for children and might look appropriate for children if all you did was see the cover art. Anyone who buys something without looking into it at all really doesn't have any room to complain. The rating is marked on the box for those who find it in a brick and mortar store and it's fairly easy to find information about it online.
Really, I think that this is a non-issue.
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chrisc1978
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:22 am
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Kalessin wrote: |
A valid point.
Really, I think that this is a non-issue. |
Why do to think Seven Seas canceled the manga for Kodomo no Jikan? Becouse it was a conflict of interest.
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Kalessin
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:41 am
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chrisc1978 wrote: |
Kalessin wrote: |
A valid point.
Really, I think that this is a non-issue. |
Why do to think Seven Seas canceled the manga for Kodomo no Jikan? Becouse it was a conflict of interest. |
I'm betting they canceled simply because they were worried about being sued. That very concept of that series is extremely lolicon. I mean, a series with an elementary school kid with a major crush on her teacher and is rated mature in ANN's encyclopedia just sounds criminal. That series is about as controversial as it gets.
Strike Witches is arguably lolicon, but that's primarily a question of character design, not story. They could easily have done the same show with non-loli character designs and no one would complain about it. Kodomo no Jikan is lolicon in its very concept.
There's no question that there's controversy around Strike Witches, but saying that they shouldn't sell it because someone might buy it and be unpleasantly surprised by its content really doesn't make sense. There are lots of shows out there that already fit that bill quite nicely.
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Otaku_X
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:32 am
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chrisc1978 wrote: |
Why do to think Seven Seas canceled the manga for Kodomo no Jikan? Becouse it was a conflict of interest. |
I think they canceled Kodomo no Jikan because Seven Seas canceles everything they license.
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zanarkand princess
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:50 pm
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No. KNJ was canceled because No one would stock it and it was more lolicon then the American market is ready for
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chrisc1978
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:10 pm
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zanarkand princess wrote: | No. KNJ was canceled because No one would stock it and it was more lolicon then the American market is ready for |
Same thing I said.
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mrgetalife
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:46 pm
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Again Strike Witches. Even though it has a 2nd season semi-green lit. Its a short series.
While Funimation does "adult" titles. It doesn't do "ADULT" titles. SW's pushes pretty close to border and that's why i'm still supprised Funimation picked it up. Due to "ages" it'll need some heavy censoring. And you can forget broadcast because they'd have to chop at least an episodes worth of footage out. Espeically the underwear episode.
[quote=Kalessin] Strike Witches is bound to be labeled as TV-MA and that should be plenty of indication for any parent who's paying attention that they shouldn't be buying Strike Witches for their kids. They won't have to know anything about Strike Witches (or even anime in general) to know that much. All they have to do is read the box.[/quote]
Um ever learn that the cover doesn't tell the story? Its going to be described as Girls fighting to save the world! And of course not mention, none of them wear pants! or things like that.
And now that you mention that part. While Funimation licensed it. With digital distribution now really being looked at hard, who said it'll hit physical distribution.
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edzieba
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:14 pm
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chrisc1978 wrote: |
zanarkand princess wrote: | No. KNJ was canceled because No one would stock it and it was more lolicon then the American market is ready for |
Same thing I said. |
One the one hand, we have Kodomo no Jikan: a series who's entire premise is 'pre-teens attempt to have sex with their teacher'. On the other, we have Strike Witches. There is one 12-year-old character, and the most that happens is the generic pantyshots and LOLgropes that are par-for-the-course in any fanservice heavy show. Big whoop. The show would stand perfectly well without the fanservice (and probably be better off without it).
Seriously, there's nothing here that goes beyond, say, Godannar. Even Code Geass had much racier content (table scene).
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Richard J.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:40 pm
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mrgetalife wrote: | Due to "ages" it'll need some heavy censoring. |
Yes because censoring helps sales of anime so very much.
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Kalessin
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:22 pm
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mrgetalife wrote: | Again Strike Witches. Even though it has a 2nd season semi-green lit. Its a short series.
While Funimation does "adult" titles. It doesn't do "ADULT" titles. SW's pushes pretty close to border and that's why i'm still supprised Funimation picked it up. Due to "ages" it'll need some heavy censoring. And you can forget broadcast because they'd have to chop at least an episodes worth of footage out. Espeically the underwear episode.
Kalessin wrote: | Strike Witches is bound to be labeled as TV-MA and that should be plenty of indication for any parent who's paying attention that they shouldn't be buying Strike Witches for their kids. They won't have to know anything about Strike Witches (or even anime in general) to know that much. All they have to do is read the box. |
Um ever learn that the cover doesn't tell the story? Its going to be described as Girls fighting to save the world! And of course not mention, none of them wear pants! or things like that.
And now that you mention that part. While Funimation licensed it. With digital distribution now really being looked at hard, who said it'll hit physical distribution. |
Funimation releases all of its shows on DVD. I question that they're making much money at all with online distribution at this point - especially when so much of it is free with ads. They may make money that way eventually, but it's new territory for them. Also, I'm pretty sure that Funimation announced that they'll be releasing the DVDs next year.
As for the box, sure it won't tell the whole story, but it will have a rating on it (probably TV-MA), so while you may very well wonder why it's TV-MA if you don't take the time to do some research online, you can at least see from the box that it's not a kids' show. There will probably still be people who buy Strike Witches and are surprised by how loli it is, but if anyone is worried about buying mature content, then the rating on the box should save them from that.
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Shiroi Hane
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:11 am
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mrgetalife wrote: | While Funimation does "adult" titles. It doesn't do "ADULT" titles. SW's pushes pretty close to border and that's why i'm still supprised Funimation picked it up. |
No, no it doesn't. Fanservice is par for the course in a lot of anime and this show contains nothing more erotic than girls bathing. Oh, and one of them used to have a boyfriend.
Anyone remember the huge outcry about Popotan? I don't, because I don't remember there being one and they were naked in the bath in pretty much every episode, Mii looked (and acted) considerable younger than any of the girls in Strike Witches and it was based on an actual ADULT game where she acted like a nymphomaniac.
Kalessin wrote: | Strike Witches is arguably lolicon, but that's primarily a question of character design, not story. They could easily have done the same show with non-loli character designs and no one would complain about it. |
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Strike Witches (and Sky Girls) was just a random plot thrown together to showcase Fumikane's designs so actually, no.
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