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sdhd
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It's not that I won't buy anime from the companies. It's I won't buy incomplete anime series if there is no evidence of companies releasing complete anime series. Please try to understand that concept. I think you are confused as to entitlement queens. Anime is a business first and as a consumer I'm at the mercy of what the anime companies produced and how they are released. The anime companies should change how they license and release anime dvds. If the anime companies are not innovatived to change with the times then it's their own fault. I used to buy the single anime dvds and later collect the box sets. Lately, that is not happening because half the time I'm not sure if I will get the complete series in the single dvds to begin with much less box sets. Like the other post ADV did a number on me with Welcome to NHK, Pumpkin Scissors, and Wallflower. Not only will I not have a complete set of singles in the same packaging for them I have to buy FUNimation singles too. I will buy the box sets for them from FUNimation. I'm not saying I don't appreciated FUNimation in fact if it weren't for them I wouldn't get the whole series for those titles. Last edited by sdhd on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:36 pm; edited 5 times in total |
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foxia
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Sad that the Limited Editon vol.6 of Lucky Star won't be out now.... I'm seriously annoyed about this...
But problem towards sales though I think is a combination of both Fansubs and people not buying the single DVD's. It reminds me of the more recent anime News Nina strip. You got those idiot fans that love their fansubs and those that support the companys by buying the DVD's. If those idiot fansub fans bought the DVD's we'd not see the cancellation of Lucky Star Limited Edition Vol. 6. Don't get me wrong, i'm not going to play innocent with it, I did watch Lucky Star fansubbed, but it convinced me to buy the DVD's because it was worth it. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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I'm not sure where the theory that it's a crime to not buy a series until the complete run is out came from. I do the same thing, I now wait until I can get my hands on the complete version at a lower price than the individual volumes -- spending over 200 on a 24- to 26-episode series of 25-minute shows is ludicrous in this day and age, and it's a business model that needs to die off. I know some people rant and rave about their purdy individual LE volumes and their fancy holograms and pencil boards and key chains and whatever, but if I can get a complete series for between $45 and $70 or so, in a box that not only saves space but is sturdy enough for its purpose, then why not?
Can you really blame people for being cost-conscious? And Bandai, for God knows what reason, still thinks singles are the way to go for releases, not realizing that the business model is starting to prove ineffective (not that it's Bandai USA's fault; I'm sure their Japanese masters insist on the single volume release format). At least GL has been releasing two discs at a time, though. |
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samuelp
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Then explain to me this: Why is it that absolutely no R2 anime DVDs, released as singles often with only 2 episodes each, have ever stopped halfway? The Japanese companies always ALWAYS finish releasing whatever was made on DVD. (Sometimes the shows themselves get cancelled. But the DVD releases never ever do.... (well, there are a few slight exceptions where a season 2 doesn't get a DVD release, but never mid season changes). There are series where they don't even sell 1000 copies and yet they continue printing the singles, one after another... Surely even LOSING money on them. A show like Suger Suger Rune sold less than 700 copies of volume 10-17 and yet they all came out, every month, like clockwork. This is because no R2 company would DARE cancel a series release in the middle of singles. Were they to do that the company would be run out of business by its customers, boycotted, and destroyed in Japan. That would be the ultimate betrayal of trust to the hard core Otaku in Japan, and they would not let it go unpunished. What you are asking R1 consumers to do is to bend over backwards and take whatever is given us. I say hell no. |
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Kireek
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Forgive my sarcasm
*I am sorry for wanting my DVDs in a complete collection, I am also sorry for waiting god knows how long for said series to come out on DVD when I have a fat wad of cash in the bank. Do you want my money or not? I would also like to point out this for anyone who did not see it at the time. animenewsnetwork.com/editorial/2007-11-25 (Oh yeah, sorry for buying DVDs as well?????) |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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sam p: by that logic, then (the logic of those who support the singles model, not your logic), we should expect less on our DVDs -- all because we're supposed to STFU and be happy we get any anime at all. That's some braindead logic, and it's dumb to pay exorbitant prices just to own an entire series because American TV shows come out in full-season boxes at $50-$60 a pop, or even less sometimes. Why shouldn't we start expecting the same from our anime? Truth is, Japan's business models are flawed and outdated, and pardon the beating of the dead horse, but their fear of change might be their undoing.
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foxia
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Well Unit 03.5-ish, the other reason why the singles cost so much in the US is mostly cause of the additional English dub added in. It's what makes up cash also for the English voice actors.
the reason why American shows cost less is because their made in America.... Anime is a totally different story in this respect. You got the costs of the license fee's and the cost of voice actors included. Plus whatever extra's are their. Sure some company's are moving to the half season business model but this means that it's going to limit what will be released later. Anyway Lucky Star was suppose to be the last of the original series that woul be released by the old singles DVD model since Bandai has since moved to the 3 part DVD model instead.. |
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murph76
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I thought as much. I don't plan to cancel my LE preorder; I ordered the regular release to ensure I complete the series.
I hope you're right, but I'm skeptical the Lucky Star LE will be rescheduled -- it's probably more cost-effective to do away with it completely. If it is rescheduled, great. I enjoy the CDs and I would like the DVD cases to match. I won't cancel my LE preorder just in case a new date is announced. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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You ordered both the standard and LE versions? Um...no comment.
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configspace
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Of course, because singles = terrible value
Again, because singles = terrible value
.. because maybe, just maybe -->
.. they shouldn't have made expensive-to-buy and expensive-to-produce singles in the first place? and maybe Bandai saw this too, hence their decision to also release Gurren Lagaan in a faster releasing and much cheaper sub-only format? edit: and like I mentioned before, all of the extras can be sold seperately as merchandise. In fact, Lucky Star is merchandise heaven! They probably would be more profitable with that strategy, IMHO |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Time for a comparison (with a Bandai title, no less, making it even MORE appropriate).
This: http://www.amazon.com/Escaflowne-Dragons-Destiny-Vol-1/dp/B00004T373/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1233479135&sr=1-8 $26 x 8 = $208 vs. This: http://www.amazon.com/Escaflowne-Anime-Legends-Complete-Collection/dp/B000E8NRNA/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1233479127&sr=8-1 $45 x 1 = $45 Please do inform me as to where the greater wisdom lies. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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A lot of us watched Lucky Star when it was airing just to see what would happened and where it would go. We never had any intention of buying it, we reserved that for shows that were worth it. |
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foxia
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Well I wasn't talking about you specifically. I'm talking about the REAL hardcore fans that love the series and they'll buy just about any kind of Merchandise of it accept the legal R1 DVD's. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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*Urge to get on anti-fansub soapbox rising* Sorry, I just hate seeing that "preview to see if it's worth it" excuse. Not knocking you or anything, but it pisses me off regardless. |
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samuelp
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Uh, it was pretty obvious to me that the show wasn't going anywhere at all after about 4 episodes. |
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