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Greed1914
Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:35 pm
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Top Gun wrote: |
Beatdigga wrote: | But that's all besides the point. The Ani-Monday block is beating Adult Swim where it counts, the shows. |
...you're referring to the programming block that's aired such gems as Virus Buster Serge or Sword for Truth. [adult swim] at its very, very worst (which I'd probably classify as Trinity Blood) is still waaaaaay higher up the quality scale than some of the drek that Manga has deemed air-worthy. |
I suspect some of that has to do with the really crappy shows coming from the defunct CPM and were probably now incredibly cheap for Sci-Fi to air as a result. But yeah, those shows are awful.
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herbkir
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:39 pm
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Well, based on the ANN update, it appears the Adult Swim bashing may not be fully justified. It looks like the Moribito cancellation resulted from a licensing dispute, not an Adult Swim vendetta against anime and anime fandom.
The Sirabella post indicates to me the USA TV dub licensing rights reverted to Production IG in Japan when Geneon collapsed, and all Media Blasters picked up from the Geneon rubble was the DVD rights.
I'll bet CN/AS and Production IG couldn't reach agreement on the price and terms for the rest of the dubbed episodes, so the show's [AS] run has ended. It was probably a case of the Japanese wanting more than [AS] was prepared to pay.
At least it appears there will be additional Moribito DVDs coming so fans can eventually buy or rent the whole series. But Sirabella indicated that with the collapsing economy, the release of additional volumes may take a while.
Nobody wins when stuff like this happens. (^_*)
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Beatdigga
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:40 pm
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Gurren Lagann and Gundam 00 (and even that one-shot OVA they aired a few months back) blow Moribito out of the water so far it's not funny.
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lapomposa104
Joined: 02 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:47 pm
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if i die, please blame adultswim
Dx
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Primus
Joined: 01 Mar 2006
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Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:04 pm
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Greed1914 wrote: |
Top Gun wrote: |
Beatdigga wrote: | But that's all besides the point. The Ani-Monday block is beating Adult Swim where it counts, the shows. |
...you're referring to the programming block that's aired such gems as Virus Buster Serge or Sword for Truth. [adult swim] at its very, very worst (which I'd probably classify as Trinity Blood) is still waaaaaay higher up the quality scale than some of the drek that Manga has deemed air-worthy. |
I suspect some of that has to do with the really crappy shows coming from the defunct CPM and were probably now incredibly cheap for Sci-Fi to air as a result. But yeah, those shows are awful. |
CPM's library is pretty hit and miss. But you're getting Now, Then, Here, and There, which is far from "really crappy". That'll of course air on Superchannel in Canada...
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Teriyaki Terrier
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:08 pm
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herbkir wrote: | Well, based on the ANN update, it appears the Adult Swim bashing may not be fully justified. It looks like the Moribito cancellation resulted from a licensing dispute, not an Adult Swim vendetta against anime and anime fandom.
The Sirabella post indicates to me the USA TV dub licensing rights reverted to Production IG in Japan when Geneon collapsed, and all Media Blasters picked up from the Geneon rubble was the DVD rights.
I'll bet CN/AS and Production IG couldn't reach agreement on the price and terms for the rest of the dubbed episodes, so the show's [AS] run has ended. It was probably a case of the Japanese wanting more than [AS] was prepared to pay.
At least it appears there will be additional Moribito DVDs coming so fans can eventually buy or rent the whole series. But Sirabella indicated that with the collapsing economy, the release of additional volumes may take a while.
Nobody wins when stuff like this happens. (^_*) |
I am sure the fans of this series are just glad some deal was worked out. One can't really fault [AS] on this case. But like Herbrik said, no one wins from situtions like this. Hopefully all of the details will be solved and this series will be able to finish via television or dvd.
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AirCooledMan_2006
Joined: 09 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:02 am
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Panda Man wrote: |
malik_chan wrote: |
For all you know, Sci-Fi made a deal with Manga to just show only their anime and are not allowed to show any other anime from other companies.
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If that were true, Gurren Lagann wouldn't have aired on it. |
Nor would have Descendants of Darkness or Now and Then, Here and There. (If CPM hasn't been active, someone must be keeping their shows afloat or they wouldn't have aired.)
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Aura Ichadora
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:51 am
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Well, at least the DVDs aren't affected so fans can still buy/rent those. I would love to get the rest of the series on DVD, even without watching it on TV first (to me, it's seriously that good).
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:47 am
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Aura Ichadora wrote: | Well, at least the DVDs aren't affected so fans can still buy/rent those. I would love to get the rest of the series on DVD, even without watching it on TV first (to me, it's seriously that good). |
Yeah, but mass exposure on TV is the best way to get people interested in those.
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The_Libertarian_Otaku
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:49 am
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
Aura Ichadora wrote: | Well, at least the DVDs aren't affected so fans can still buy/rent those. I would love to get the rest of the series on DVD, even without watching it on TV first (to me, it's seriously that good). |
Yeah, but mass exposure on TV is the best way to get people interested in those. |
Then why didn't they just air Moribito at an earlier time? That would've gotten it even better ratings.
Axed after ten eps = proof that [AS] WANTED Moribito to fail.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:07 am
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The_Libertarian_Otaku wrote: |
walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
Aura Ichadora wrote: | Well, at least the DVDs aren't affected so fans can still buy/rent those. I would love to get the rest of the series on DVD, even without watching it on TV first (to me, it's seriously that good). |
Yeah, but mass exposure on TV is the best way to get people interested in those. |
Then why didn't they just air Moribito at an earlier time? That would've gotten it even better ratings.
Axed after ten eps = proof that [AS] WANTED Moribito to fail. |
Because [as] are idiots, why else? I'm sure they're only playing anime out of some sort of contractual agreement. I'm sure they'd rather have Minoriteam or Assy McGee or whatever vomit inducing stuff they create being shown on a constant basis.
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WindAlchemistJen
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:54 am
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*points to the update to the story*
It's not Adult Swim's fault...this time.
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Tokimemofan
Joined: 04 Feb 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:14 am
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Thank you soo much adult swim and lousy "Producers" just when I thought my week couldn't suck any more you clowns screw this up?!?!
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jr240483
Joined: 24 Dec 2005
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:53 am
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TheTheory wrote: | this is the sound of me not being surprised in the least. |
Neither am I.
Putting a fantasy based anime series on a block mostly based on action viewers was asking for trouble,viewerwise and reputatuonwise.
The series is no doubt excellent,but it's slow pacing don't attract the main viewers on AS,which is non stop action like FMA and others.
instead of that series for broadcast,they should've went for series people want to see like Claymore.Or better yet, the uncut epsiodes of Naruto Shippuden and the Funi version of One Piece.Don't you think it would've been better for AS if they have gotten those series mentioned above???
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GrinfilledCelt
Joined: 17 Jan 2009
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:28 pm
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The_Libertarian_Otaku wrote: | Moved to 4:30 am after the very first episode aired = proof that [AS] WANTED Moribito to fail. |
Fixed
Apparently, the reason it was axed was because there were no further dubbed episodes forthcoming. That almost makes canceling it justifiable (they could have aired subs). Moving the show to that certain-death time slot proves their malicious intent.
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